Frankland

SouthernBoy · Post by **SouthernBoy** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:42 pm

I've a query if anyone can help out - it's on the goods wagons/vans side of things:
Would you expect to see vans of mixed consignments more commonly on suburban goods movements - or specific vehicles such as milk vans and fruit vans - or a mix of both ? I guess the latter ... but don't really know.

Similarly - mail and parcels, would these normally be conveyed in the guards van on passenger trains rather than by specialised vehicles ? I'm not so clear about these things. I do know I need a guards van at the end though !

Thanks for any advice.

waz : Thanks

Infrontcat and pointstaken
Each of the tube stations from Clapham South to Morden are wonderful examples of Holden architecture - I wouldn't model a specific example as it would pin my layout to a particular location, which it doesn't represent - so once I've decided where it will go I'll imagine Charles Holden is designing it and see what he would come up with.

I was thinking for another time though - Balham would be interesting because it has an interchange with the main line. Morden would be interesting because it's the grandest of these stations.

Raider
yes, picture at the weekend, I promise.

Infrontcat · Post by **Infrontcat** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:00 pm

Balham was just up the road from me (I lived in Trinity Crescent, the road opposite Tooting Fire Station on Trinity Road) and I often alighted there (ex-Victoria) and walked home from there rather than bother catching the tube. There's plenty to model: bridge over the high street, four lines and you could even model the junction with the Streatham Hill line and the depot.

I have one unforgettable memory of the station area that occured one very cold night in (about) 1994.

My girlfriend and I were walking home from shopping at Safeway and were going to stop en route for a Guiness. However, we decided against it 'cos we had a bottle of rose in the bag and, since we were poor students, we thought we'd save the three or four quid.

We walked under the bridge and had gone on about 200 yards when we heard a loud bang...and turned to see people moving hither and thither on the pavement outside the pub.

Turned out someone had just walked up to a guy sitting at the bar in the pub we had planned to stop at...and shot him in the head

Ah, memories...

SouthernBoy · Post by **SouthernBoy** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:43 pm

Frankland Video now available:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCur7Bqr_4A

It's just for fun and my first attempt (hope the link works ! ).

Infrontcat:
So is that the reason you swear by drinking a bottle of wine at home each night ? Scary story ... !

Infrontcat · Post by **Infrontcat** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:45 pm

SouthernBoy wrote:So is that the reason you swear by drinking a bottle of wine at home each night ? Scary story ... !

Dammit, it's a fair cop

Nice vid by the way mate. Looks superb!

m.levin · Post by **m.levin** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:50 pm

Nice effect on you videon mate, hope to see some more soon.

SouthernBoy · Post by **SouthernBoy** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:22 pm

Frankland update No. 4:

And Frankland's first birthday

I just realised that it's exactly one year ago today that I first posted on NRM ! A couple of days after that wood and other materials arrived and I started work...

Anyway, heres a panorama of my layout.

So you can see how I imagine things will develop I've done a few visuals. I think they give you a better idea of how things will look than just a plan. This isn't necessarily the order in which I intend to do things though... anyway, I hope they are self explanatory.

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Oh, and if you missed the video before - here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCur7Bqr_4A

Mark

edwardholmes91 · Post by **edwardholmes91** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:54 pm

Wow, what can I say stunning! The pictures are great. I love the track plan, its like a figure of eight that comes back on itself, and the video is brilliant, I love the old shakey film effect you have got there.

SouthernBoy · Post by **SouthernBoy** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:52 am

Cheers matey, I think the layout configuration is called 'folded figure of eight' and my inspiration was this layout: http://www.scenicmodelrailways.com/layo ... gauge.html . This guy has a really good eye for aesthetics and those 'little details' - everything integrates perfectly. But there's nothing too serious about the whole thing either. It's an approach I like.

Glad you liked the film - I'll probably make one each time I complete a section of the layout. But I'm a slow worker so don't hold your breath !

Infrontcat · Post by **Infrontcat** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:06 am

Good stuff. Really like the diagramatical annotated step-by-step pictures

Excellent idea.

I always liked the double loop/squashed eight configuration (I think I've seen it called an 'inverted loop' or something like that before as well) and you've exploited it rather well.

I particularly like the idea for the castle halt

I was planning on putting an ornate castle at the foot of the garden railway and having a similar station simply called Castle Blaxton (funnily enough, the outer walls of the castle will probably be clad in black slate, hence the name, Black-stone

).

That's for next year though!

Once again, really like that station you have done. Had anymore thoughts on where you might incorporate an LU Station? Will it be connected to one of the bigger stations or stand alone in the street? (Sorry for all the questions

)

Cheers

Tim

SouthernBoy · Post by **SouthernBoy** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 9:55 am

Infrontcat wrote: I was planning on a similar station simply called Castle Blaxton (funnily enough, the outer walls of the castle will probably be clad in black slate, hence the name, Black-stone ).
Tim

I like 'Blaxton' from 'Black-stone' it's like saxon names which became anglicised / contracted over the centuries. I also like it because it it gives a fictional place an air of local history / authenticity.

Infrontcat wrote: ...Had anymore thoughts on where you might incorporate an LU Station? Will it be connected to one of the bigger stations or stand alone in the street?...
Tim

LU station will go in the front right section of the layout. I won't know exactly where - I usually spend a while playing around with the positioning of buildings to see how they look first. There may well be one or two secondary 'subway' entrances too, maybe on the opposite side of the street and / or on Frankland Station.

One thing I haven't figured out is how to make the small roundel signs - I know I can buy printed signs, but it's the structure they're fixed to (the circle with a bar through) which I think will be really fiddly to cut out. If / when I figure it out Victory Road will probably also have a secondary subway entrance to it's own (off-scene) tube station.

sanctuary · Post by **sanctuary** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:43 am

Thanks for your informative pictures and post, its got me thinking about track plans and hosepipes. Great work looking forward to more updates.

peak · Post by **peak** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 4:44 pm

The video was very convincing (old news reel stuff)

Bryan Gundry · Post by **Bryan Gundry** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:11 am

Hi

I have just caught up with your layout.

I am mighty impressed with the street scene. The mix of buildings, style and positioning give a great feel for location. I have book marked it for my reference collection - its inspirational.

Once you have included street furniture, pedestrians and the right type of vehicles.... phone camera or not I think a few people will assume at first sight that your model is a real place.

Keep up the great work.

Bryan

cookiescrumble · Post by **cookiescrumble** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 10:13 am

Man, thats awesome!

Looks like my layout is back to the drawing board

Damn you Southernboy *shakes fist*

Probably already been asked, but what size is your layout?

SouthernBoy · Post by **SouthernBoy** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:11 am

Thanks Bryan Gundry, unfortunately the rate I'm working it's going to be a year or two before I get to the point of finer detailing !

However, I'm hoping that by the time I reach that point I'm ready to move to a big new layout room (with house attached) and can start on the 'real layout' we all dream of...

cookiescrumble: The layout is 1,000 x 1,950 mm. It sits on top of the single bed in my spare room.