Illegal.

[stevebar]

we all knew what he meant...

Really? You'd be astounded to learn how many people think the police make the law.

You're happy for people to labour under a misapprehension? Possibly perpetuated by

Under code 48 (???) issued by the British Transport Police, it was made illegal

Interesting that you are authorised to speak on behalf of everyone else.

[trainsandco]

Under code 48 (???) issued by the British Transport Police, it was made illegal

Interesting that you are authorised to speak on behalf of everyone else.

hey, it was an amusing fact/law and i thought people would want to hear about it.....no need to bite my head off

[b308]

He actually said "issued by" which if I was to be really pedantic, I could actually argue was at least partially correct, if you wanted to see a copy of the Railway By Laws one place you could go would be the BTP who could do doubt "issue" you with a copy of the relevent section... I take your point, Steve, but still feel you were being a little harsh, the lad was simply highlighting what he thought was an amusing piece of leglislation, not discussing its origins.

[Vigo]

hey, it was an amusing fact/law and i thought people would want to hear about it.....no need to bite my head off

Well said.

[trainsandco]

hey, it was an amusing fact/law and i thought people would want to hear about it.....no need to bite my head off

Well said.

why the handbags?

[Vigo]

[trainsandco]

well??

[joshing_man]

As in 'handbags at 10 paces' when a minor squabble ensues over nothing, comes to nothing and is really nothing. Like when football players square up to each other but never give each other a proper slap.

Correct me if I am wrong Vigo.

Andrew

[Vigo]

No need for a correction Joshing Man, you're spot on with your analogy. I thought everyone would be familiar with the 'handbags' idea... obviously I was wrong.

[Deltic1981]

As in 'handbags at 10 paces' when a minor squabble ensues over nothing, comes to nothing and is really nothing. Like when football players square up to each other but never give each other a proper slap.

Correct me if I am wrong Vigo.

Andrew

UM like this?

[Curler Guy]

I think someone is pulling our chains over this law, BOOM BOOM!!! Sorry.

As for the one about not leaving a train by the proper doors, I had an interesting experience in London once and it borught up an interesting question for me.

I was (Unfortunately on a '377), and as the train arrived at Victoria, I suddenly needed a s**t desperately, so I had to go.
Anyway, I was in no hurry and simply assumed the train would work another service out again.

WRONG!, the train started moving and went into one of the stock sidings on the other side of Grovesnor Bridge.

Now, the driver was still there and escorted me back to the station, but it occurred to me that if he had left, I'd have been stuck unless it was a Slammer (this was 2005).

It occurred to me that you could probably have climbed/fallen out of one of the droplights, making sure it's the side WITHOUT the 3rd rail, obviously.

I was just wondering if anyone has actually done that??

[hairyhandedfool]

....It occurred to me that you could probably have climbed/fallen out of one of the droplights, making sure it's the side WITHOUT the 3rd rail, obviously....

I'm interested to know how exactly you would identify the side that the 3rd rail is on from within the train?

[Curler Guy]

If it had been a slammer you would have been able to see out of the droplight.

I was on a '377, but this was 2005, and I easily could have been on a slammer. If the driver had already left, then, on a '377 I'd have been locked inside the train, but if it had been a slammer, then I probably would have been able to climb out of one of the droplights in the Guard's/Luggage area, or directly behind the cabs where there were no bars over the windows and gained assistance (after taking pictures, of course).
Of course, a door could have been left unlocked or I might have had something I could have used as a carriage key, who knows?

Anyway, we walked back to a small staff halt/platform leaving the '377 in the sidings (leaving probably one of the best '377 picture opportunities I've ever had as I had to climb out of the cab, etc).

The view was absolutely fantastic on this small metal halt because it was at the junction just before Batersea Park station (Factory Junction is it?), and I'd have taken pictures, except for the fact that the driver was pissed off at me (I think he thought I was up to no good) and if he knew I was an enthusiast he might have thought I'd done it deliberately (which clearly I hadn't).
That is one of my major regrets that I didn't get pictures, as it would have been a totally different location altogether, and after that I did vaguely consider doing it again deliberately, but I decided I'd better not! (Especially if I ran into the same driver or it was one of the few who knew me and would have known fine well what I was doing).

A slammer heading into Victoria (a VEP with a 39xx number) doddered up and stopped at the signal beside our platform and I entered the train, startling a lot of passengers inside as I'd seemingly entered whilst standing on thin air!!

Any drivers from Southern will probably know where I'm talking about.

[trainsandco]

I think someone is pulling our chains over this law, BOOM BOOM!!! Sorry.

As for the one about not leaving a train by the proper doors, I had an interesting experience in London once and it borught up an interesting question for me.

I was (Unfortunately on a '377), and as the train arrived at Victoria, I suddenly needed a s**t desperately, so I had to go.
Anyway, I was in no hurry and simply assumed the train would work another service out again.

WRONG!, the train started moving and went into one of the stock sidings on the other side of Grovesnor Bridge.

Now, the driver was still there and escorted me back to the station, but it occurred to me that if he had left, I'd have been stuck unless it was a Slammer (this was 2005).

It occurred to me that you could probably have climbed/fallen out of one of the droplights, making sure it's the side WITHOUT the 3rd rail, obviously.

I was just wondering if anyone has actually done that??

lol that made me giggle a bit and it reminded me of when I got was literally chyting myself, but for a different reason altogether

me and my friends where going to Caledonia on a virgin voyager (ok 2 to be precise, it split at Edinburgh) but at Edinburgh I was dared to get off the train, close the doors, open the doors and get back on. I got off the train, went to press the button, but the doors closed by themselves, me thinking that my friend had done it.......oh no! the driver closed them but thankfully it was only because he was splitting the train. I swear to god the time that I found out I couldn't open the doors and the train moved slightly, I swear my heart stopped momentarily

Ben

[b308]

I've seen a few people do that at New Street... the look of panic is very amusing to those of us who are doing the split!