Purpose designed adhesive for Lead

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Bigmet
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Purpose designed adhesive for Lead

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We are mid 'Home improvements for our old age, so we don't get tripped up hauling the wheelie bins around, etc.' ; sub plot 'Making the old shack more presentable to attract potential purchasers when the need to sell up arises'. Integral to this project was extending and fitting a new felt roof covering to make a cold storage/wet room/back door porch for rainy day access, from what was originally a very basic side alley with the coal bunker, dustbin cupboard, dog kennel and winter cold store.

So this morning, much to my surprise, the roofing contractor used a lead flashing to the house outside wall, rather than using the roofing felt to create flashing, this for longevity: and he didn't use mortar, but 'Lead Sheet Sealant' from 'Soudal' to grout it into the mortar course, as this silicone formulation remains elastic and copes much better with expansion and contraction of the lead, especially when exposed to direct sunlight, as at this location. (We also have a lead roofed extension where some of this problem has occurred in the past, so you can guess what I will be doing this autumn, after reading the next paragraph: laugh a minute, he named the business that did that job, first guess from the likely candidates, because he 'could see his hand in it'. Traditional skills eh?)

Naturally I had scavenged all the useful code 4 lead offcuts from the job, and the contractor asked what for: and he's an enthusiast for model railway, since last year seeing a client's layout and blown away by what's now available in RTR OO. Naturally enough we had a little time with some models and I tried out the sealant for attaching lead to a couple of plastic kits, perfect. Now this is an advance, as polystyrene/ABS can deform if a petroleum solvent based adhesive (evostick) or curing resin (araldite) is used, caused by it softening the moulding, combined with the weight of the lead. No such effect with the sealant, and I was given the last inch and a half of the tube of sealant to play with. :D
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Re: Purpose designed adhesive for Lead

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Nice!
I had a roll of lead sheet here somewhere but can't find it for the life of me.
You wouldn't think a thing that size could just disappear. :?
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Oh, I believe it. My organisational method for storage is first suitable storage space in the vicinity, and I never had any trouble finding stored items, by the association of what I was doing at the time, with the inevitably nearby storage space. But then someone decided that storage needed 'organisation' and everything disappears until found by accident... My new best friend adhesive is in the sanctum of my layout room - and I hold the key.
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Bigmet wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 8:54 am Oh, I believe it. My organisational method for storage is first suitable storage space in the vicinity, and I never had any trouble finding stored items, by the association of what I was doing at the time, with the inevitably nearby storage space. But then someone decided that storage needed 'organisation' and everything disappears until found by accident... My new best friend adhesive is in the sanctum of my layout room - and I hold the key.
until someone "organises" the key for you
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Beware using PVA to attach lead as it reacts and swells.
My random storage method is fine until 'someone' decides it needs tidying up, then I can't find anything for months until I trip over it again looking for something else. I then become sidetracked and forget what I was looking for in the first place.
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RAF96 wrote: Fri Aug 22, 2025 11:55 amBeware using PVA to attach lead as it reacts and swells...

Good warning to keep on view, I have seen more than a few models damaged by this over the years.
The vulnerable lead is what is sold in fine shot form, because of its large surface area, and that it is all too often of low purity; both of which promote reaction with any PVA that is acidic (smells of vinegar).

Use lead sheet, and there's no swelling trouble at all with any adhesive I have used to date: only the different problem to be aware of from regularly used adhesives that can release migratory components able to soften the polystyrene and ABS formulations used for plastic body mouldings. Thus my enthusiasm for the alternative that just came to my attention.
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