Sprung Buffers In 00.

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Why? Modellers that do use buffer to buffer touching coupling methods find the springing effect a negative aspect so would be tempted to glue them solid, whilst most modellers use coupling systems where the buffers never touch. So why are manufacturers providing sprung bufders at all in this scale other than to amplify their profits?
(Nice to make things more realistic but when oval buffers on models sit at unprototypical angles where the springing effect is of little practical use there comes a point where one has to ask why?)

The only sprung buffers that do actually provide a very good form of practical use and this is probably one of the best accessories I have ever come across for 00 gauge modellers Is the absolutely Brilliant Hornby sprung Hydraulic buffer stop which can take a really heavy full force top speed hit and I can testify has honestly prevented many a loco and its train from harm... Other makes of hydraulic buffer stop may look more prototypical, but the way the Hornby buffer stop which I bought back in the early 1980's worked to prevent so many disasters over the years, on more than one layout... I was soo tempted (If funds permitted when I had the idea) to have one of these protecting every off the scene siding I had, as they had such a lovely spring to protect ones locos and stock from harm... Has to be the very best 00 gauge accessory ever made! They first came in with Triang and have been produced for years! I hope they carried on with the same springing effect after production moved to China! Their springs were "Just right!"

But as for spring buffers on locos and rolling stock, by having them does not have that much of a practical value other than an ever so slight reduction of force of one slams into a solid fixed type of buffer stop which is more likely itself to break rather than protect, so though they are nice to touch when handled as a gimmick, practically they just provide an extra item to go wrong.
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Mountain wrote: Wed Jul 16, 2025 2:43 pm But as for spring buffers on locos and rolling stock, by having them does not have that much of a practical value other than an ever so slight reduction of force of one slams into a solid fixed type of buffer stop which is more likely itself to break rather than protect,
Operator error? :lol:
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its the "perception of quality" with a feature that doesn't add must cost to manufacture

give me sprung axles
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Dont forget, some people just collect the models for static display and will go nowhere near a track.

Not saying sprung buffers are solely to satisfy the demands of static modellers but they will be something required by the discerning modeller's display.
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End2end wrote: Wed Jul 16, 2025 5:38 pm
Mountain wrote: Wed Jul 16, 2025 2:43 pm But as for spring buffers on locos and rolling stock, by having them does not have that much of a practical value other than an ever so slight reduction of force of one slams into a solid fixed type of buffer stop which is more likely itself to break rather than protect,
Operator error? :lol:
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When we 'have people over' we usually sit around the dining table because that's where the tea, coffee and cakes are placed.
Against my better judgement and past experience, I can never resist the urge to bring out my latest loco acquisition to show off.

After an initial 'Oh that's nice', they stare blankly at the lovely thing. The only moving part I can demonstrate, to try and generate some interest, is the sprung buffers, which may elicit a 'Mmm!' The conversation will then revert to work hassles, other people's failings, the latest celebrity to appear on 'Dancing With the Stars', etc. However, thanks to sprung buffers, I can't be accused of not making conversation. :D
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Phred wrote: Wed Jul 16, 2025 10:32 pm When we 'have people over' we usually sit around the dining table because that's where the tea, coffee and cakes are placed.
Against my better judgement and past experience, I can never resist the urge to bring out my latest loco acquisition to show off.

After an initial 'Oh that's nice', they stare blankly at the lovely thing. The only moving part I can demonstrate, to try and generate some interest, is the sprung buffers, which may elicit a 'Mmm!' The conversation will then revert to work hassles, other people's failings, the latest celebrity to appear on 'Dancing With the Stars', etc. However, thanks to sprung buffers, I can't be accused of not making conversation. :D
I thought showing ones locos to visitors was normal until years later someone suggested not everyone likes trains, to which I replied "Yet" as I brought down some more...
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Mountain wrote:
I thought showing ones locos to visitors was normal
Me too! :lol:
But I now realise how the sales people (religious and otherwise) who knock on my door must feel.
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Mountain wrote: Wed Jul 16, 2025 2:43 pm Modellers that do use buffer to buffer touching coupling methods find the springing effect a negative aspect...
Not necessarily for this OO afficianado; 'it all depends'.
Gangwayed carriage stock with sprung buffers and kinematic couplings have all sprung buffer heads retracted, as on the prototype with the Pullman gangway, this incorporates a centre buffer.
Brake fitted stock, sprung buffers in contact wherever possible, but some model buffers have insufficient stroke.
Unfitted stock 'loose coupled', buffer heads space off 2mm apart on straight track, make contact on stopping and when propelled.
Minimum layout radius is 36" for passenger, 30" for freight.
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In 0 gauge years ago it was the done thing to run on sharper radius curves than normal by enlarging the bufferheads so they avoided bufferlocking.
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