Beaglington-On-Sea Mk3 00 Round the Room
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Beaglington-On-Sea Mk3 00 Round the Room
Hello Everyone!
I'm going to try and make more of an effort to come here and post stuff, we'll see how long that lasts haha.
Anyways, for those of you who haven't followed my youtube shenanigans, I decided this year to deconstruct the second iteration of Beaglington-On-Sea which had been a 6 by 4 layout and removed all of the track and a much of the buildings, and then build frames round the room to have a longer continuous run. In doing this it would free up space on the floor in our spare/play/railway room and trains can finally stretch their wheels. The room is supposedly 11ft by 11ft but a we found out when installing the baseboards and frames, the walls undulate from side to side and top to bottom and the corners of the room are not perfectly square xD
I had a vision in mind of a stretched out version of the previous Beaglington-On-Sea layout along one wall, and then different scenes on others, I wanted to retain the cliff element, tunnel and road overbridge. While some things have been rearranged like positions of goods sidings, loco shed and brewery, I still feel like I've retained the elements. Being stretched out means I can hold trains in passing loops/extra platforms at the station, allowing me to have more on show and more choice of what to run and doesn't have an unrealistic curve of platform.
The trains will leave through a tunnel on the left hand end of the station, but this time there mainlines are just two, not three, a I'm now able to model a branch line properly, which will run towards the front of the boards. SO when the mainlines go into the tunnel and onto the "hill board" they emerge onto an incline behind the intermediate branch station (which is where my track for the branch runs out for now), the branch line will run into its own tunnel at the end of this board before turning on to board 3 and terminating in a harbour station. The incline on board two is to allow the trains to climb to a height where they can traverse whats intended to be a viaduct made with two metcalfe stone viaduct kits on board 3 before entering a tunnel under the harbour town. Below both of these the height of board 3 is something like 100mm lower so the incline doesn't have to be too steep and will allow me to model the harbour wall/water at a more realistic height in comparison to the track in the harbour. Below the curve from board 2 to 3 theres also a small 009 circuit which will serve a lower town/village...if it works out properly.
While the branch terminates at board 3s end, the mainlines emerge from the tunnel on a narrow board above the desk leading to a door flap. I want to add maybe a very low relief beach station on this section where the platforms are part of the sea wall and there are beach huts along them, I am not sure if itll be possible. The lifting flap section may be modelled to look like a bridge somehow too, and after that the mainlines run under the road bridge, round a corner, past the brewery and back into the station.
With all the track I rescued and all I had spare I still only had enough track for board 1. Over the summer I worked hard and managed to get enough R603 double long straights to get the mainlines running without any scenery but it was slo going a Amazon would only let me buy 5 at a time, and usually only let me buy the 5 once every like 10 days.
I'll try add a plan here and then in a subsequent post show some pics of what I've been doing although there's been some slight deviations to that plan and the 009 is not on it. Thanks,
Alex.
I'm going to try and make more of an effort to come here and post stuff, we'll see how long that lasts haha.
Anyways, for those of you who haven't followed my youtube shenanigans, I decided this year to deconstruct the second iteration of Beaglington-On-Sea which had been a 6 by 4 layout and removed all of the track and a much of the buildings, and then build frames round the room to have a longer continuous run. In doing this it would free up space on the floor in our spare/play/railway room and trains can finally stretch their wheels. The room is supposedly 11ft by 11ft but a we found out when installing the baseboards and frames, the walls undulate from side to side and top to bottom and the corners of the room are not perfectly square xD
I had a vision in mind of a stretched out version of the previous Beaglington-On-Sea layout along one wall, and then different scenes on others, I wanted to retain the cliff element, tunnel and road overbridge. While some things have been rearranged like positions of goods sidings, loco shed and brewery, I still feel like I've retained the elements. Being stretched out means I can hold trains in passing loops/extra platforms at the station, allowing me to have more on show and more choice of what to run and doesn't have an unrealistic curve of platform.
The trains will leave through a tunnel on the left hand end of the station, but this time there mainlines are just two, not three, a I'm now able to model a branch line properly, which will run towards the front of the boards. SO when the mainlines go into the tunnel and onto the "hill board" they emerge onto an incline behind the intermediate branch station (which is where my track for the branch runs out for now), the branch line will run into its own tunnel at the end of this board before turning on to board 3 and terminating in a harbour station. The incline on board two is to allow the trains to climb to a height where they can traverse whats intended to be a viaduct made with two metcalfe stone viaduct kits on board 3 before entering a tunnel under the harbour town. Below both of these the height of board 3 is something like 100mm lower so the incline doesn't have to be too steep and will allow me to model the harbour wall/water at a more realistic height in comparison to the track in the harbour. Below the curve from board 2 to 3 theres also a small 009 circuit which will serve a lower town/village...if it works out properly.
While the branch terminates at board 3s end, the mainlines emerge from the tunnel on a narrow board above the desk leading to a door flap. I want to add maybe a very low relief beach station on this section where the platforms are part of the sea wall and there are beach huts along them, I am not sure if itll be possible. The lifting flap section may be modelled to look like a bridge somehow too, and after that the mainlines run under the road bridge, round a corner, past the brewery and back into the station.
With all the track I rescued and all I had spare I still only had enough track for board 1. Over the summer I worked hard and managed to get enough R603 double long straights to get the mainlines running without any scenery but it was slo going a Amazon would only let me buy 5 at a time, and usually only let me buy the 5 once every like 10 days.
I'll try add a plan here and then in a subsequent post show some pics of what I've been doing although there's been some slight deviations to that plan and the 009 is not on it. Thanks,
Alex.
"I love the way you call it Art, When you never even use your Heart, and I just wanna tear you Apart"
Re: Beaglington-On-Sea Mk3 00 Round the Room
Hi Alex, that's an interesting looking layout, mainline through and branch terminus to boot. I am afraid I am not much into utube so this is the first I have seen of your layout, I hope you continue postings as it progresses. BTW mine is 6ft x 8ft so you got the legs on me
Roger
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Re: Beaglington-On-Sea Mk3 00 Round the Room
All the best with the new layout, the longer run will be good. And also, it's not just the walls that 'undulate', worth checking the layout top where the track will be laid to correct any off-level floor so the trains don't face unintended gradients. The scenic treatment can be as realistically wonky as you wish...Alexander Court wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:23 am The room is supposedly 11ft by 11ft but a we found out when installing the baseboards and frames, the walls undulate from side to side and top to bottom and the corners of the room are not perfectly square...
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Re: Beaglington-On-Sea Mk3 00 Round the Room
looks simple enough, self evidently not a huge amount of storage space which I assume is deliberate and trains get "hand of god" shunting on and off. plenty of scope to have a few circulating to just watch though, especially the branch to play about with which is a nice touch.
and it is a good length to run stuff in, especially if you have shorter length trains where its really going to feel much larger than it is while still being able to run longer stuff.
Bigmet's point on gradients is good with a fixed layout is easier to do as well, just make a point on a wall somewhere, thats "zero" and measure everything else height wise from that. nothing wrong with some gradients but you want them to be intentional ones otherwise all sorts of experiments are forthcoming to keep stuff where you put it.. then go wonky with scenery and it looks very good.
viaducts are always good for showing off trains too
and it is a good length to run stuff in, especially if you have shorter length trains where its really going to feel much larger than it is while still being able to run longer stuff.
Bigmet's point on gradients is good with a fixed layout is easier to do as well, just make a point on a wall somewhere, thats "zero" and measure everything else height wise from that. nothing wrong with some gradients but you want them to be intentional ones otherwise all sorts of experiments are forthcoming to keep stuff where you put it.. then go wonky with scenery and it looks very good.
viaducts are always good for showing off trains too
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All looks very interesting. I look forward to seeing how you integrate the narrow gauge line into it.
I'll have to search for your YouTube channel now.
I'll have to search for your YouTube channel now.
Re: Beaglington-On-Sea Mk3 00 Round the Room
Narrow gauge and gradients is interesting. There is generally more weight per the locos size (Or the potential to add more weight) which is useful for pulling trains up hills so they can climb rather well, but this can be offset by needing a taller gap under bridges so it depends what one is trying to do.
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Re: Beaglington-On-Sea Mk3 00 Round the Room
When I was just old enough to remember things, maybe 2 years old, my dad built a 5 by 3 layout under mine and my brothers bunk beds, we had a double track line with a quarry area and a tunnel. We had two clockwork Thomas's and a clockwork Percy (me and my brother that is) with Annie and Clarabel, the red and blue wagons that came with percy and a tidmoth milk tanker. When I was maybe 3 my dad then had an L shape terminus to fiddle yard arrangement on the wall. I've had various layouts, train sets and baseboards in the 30 years since but this is my first all round the room layout of this size. I do hope I can get back into the swing of posting here, because in the 13 and a half years I've been a member, this forum has been a cornerstone to my life, even when not posting.fourtytwo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:25 pm Hi Alex, that's an interesting looking layout, mainline through and branch terminus to boot. I am afraid I am not much into utube so this is the first I have seen of your layout, I hope you continue postings as it progresses. BTW mine is 6ft x 8ft so you got the legs on me
Roger
Anyways, thanks for the interest, I'll see if I've got some pics to resize and upload.
Alex
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Re: Beaglington-On-Sea Mk3 00 Round the Room
Yes, this is something that causes an issue, because the floor slopes towards the corner which is bottom right in the plan, meaning that engines starting from the station on the left on the plan have to climb an incline along the bottom of the plan, but they climb less from the bit above the Desk as that level is higher. It'll be a tricky job for next year to get that viaduct section sorted but at least trains can make it up the incline section.Bigmet wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:31 pmAll the best with the new layout, the longer run will be good. And also, it's not just the walls that 'undulate', worth checking the layout top where the track will be laid to correct any off-level floor so the trains don't face unintended gradients. The scenic treatment can be as realistically wonky as you wish...Alexander Court wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:23 am The room is supposedly 11ft by 11ft but a we found out when installing the baseboards and frames, the walls undulate from side to side and top to bottom and the corners of the room are not perfectly square...
Thanks
Alex.
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Re: Beaglington-On-Sea Mk3 00 Round the Room
I've always wanted a viaduct since watching TTTE as a wee one, but never had a chance to properly execute one, hoping to use two metcalfe stone viaduct kits, I did my baseboard and incline measurements based on the height information on the kits.aleopardstail wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:52 pm looks simple enough, self evidently not a huge amount of storage space which I assume is deliberate and trains get "hand of god" shunting on and off. plenty of scope to have a few circulating to just watch though, especially the branch to play about with which is a nice touch.
and it is a good length to run stuff in, especially if you have shorter length trains where its really going to feel much larger than it is while still being able to run longer stuff.
Bigmet's point on gradients is good with a fixed layout is easier to do as well, just make a point on a wall somewhere, thats "zero" and measure everything else height wise from that. nothing wrong with some gradients but you want them to be intentional ones otherwise all sorts of experiments are forthcoming to keep stuff where you put it.. then go wonky with scenery and it looks very good.
viaducts are always good for showing off trains too
Functionally it gives me the chance to stable two more trains on the layout, in the station loops, than previously. I've tried to build up rakes of stock and locos so that I can operate the layout in one particular region/era setting for a while if I want though some collections need more attention. I don't mind shifting stock, switching points, uncoupling etc by hand as I like doing those things and automation of those is an unnecessary expense in my case, that's just me though and I'm always very impressed by what people can do without using their hands in operations.
Certainly it's been a very different experience seeing smaller trains running in such a space, I can't wait to see that when the scenics really get going. But also seeing longer trains(not even particularly long by realistic standards) going round is impressive.
Thanks,
Alex
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Re: Beaglington-On-Sea Mk3 00 Round the Room
Well the 009 line is just going to be a little excuse to run stuff but I'm hoping will add a neat little scene to a corner of the layout that I couldn't make anything else in 00 really work in.
My channel of YouTube is called Beaglington-On-Sea or perhaps @Beaglington might work. Occasionally I do casual reviews, I like to do special episodes for holidays where I get to do skits/sketches like my circus pieces. I'm going to try do videos every day from December 1st to 25th, no idea if I'll manage it. I'm working on 3 episodes about my N gauge layout at the moment.
Thanks,
Alex.
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I won't be dabbling in O-16.5mm just yet, but never say never, one layout that I always remember, I read about in Railway Modeller, was Crackington Quay, that was a fantastic layout, wouldn't mind a layout I could exhibit run by a couple of Dapol/Hornby L&YR pugs modified to 7mm scale, still I'm hoping to live at least 20 to 30 more years so there's still time!Mountain wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 10:14 pm Narrow gauge and gradients is interesting. There is generally more weight per the locos size (Or the potential to add more weight) which is useful for pulling trains up hills so they can climb rather well, but this can be offset by needing a taller gap under bridges so it depends what one is trying to do.
I have your BR blue diesels and blue/grey BR Mk1s to run on my layout I believe?
Thanks,
Alex
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Re: Beaglington-On-Sea Mk3 00 Round the Room
Oh yes! Hope they are still running well... If you need any more, let me know!Alexander Court wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:37 amI won't be dabbling in O-16.5mm just yet, but never say never, one layout that I always remember, I read about in Railway Modeller, was Crackington Quay, that was a fantastic layout, wouldn't mind a layout I could exhibit run by a couple of Dapol/Hornby L&YR pugs modified to 7mm scale, still I'm hoping to live at least 20 to 30 more years so there's still time!Mountain wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 10:14 pm Narrow gauge and gradients is interesting. There is generally more weight per the locos size (Or the potential to add more weight) which is useful for pulling trains up hills so they can climb rather well, but this can be offset by needing a taller gap under bridges so it depends what one is trying to do.
I have your BR blue diesels and blue/grey BR Mk1s to run on my layout I believe?
Thanks,
Alex
Or if you do want to experiment in 0-16.5, I think I can part with something!
You may find the potential space saving capabilities of 0-16.5 useful, as one can turn them in corners one daren't turn in 00!
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Re: Beaglington-On-Sea Mk3 00 Round the Room
I have to say, despite a grumbling from a certain subscriber to my youtube, that the BR blue stock I hot from you has been an absolute pleasure to run, the coaches have done stellar service and the locos are earning their keep for sure. You'll have to pm me what is still available but what I've had so far I don't think ai can't fault at all!Mountain wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:48 pmOh yes! Hope they are still running well... If you need any more, let me know!Alexander Court wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:37 amI won't be dabbling in O-16.5mm just yet, but never say never, one layout that I always remember, I read about in Railway Modeller, was Crackington Quay, that was a fantastic layout, wouldn't mind a layout I could exhibit run by a couple of Dapol/Hornby L&YR pugs modified to 7mm scale, still I'm hoping to live at least 20 to 30 more years so there's still time!Mountain wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 10:14 pm Narrow gauge and gradients is interesting. There is generally more weight per the locos size (Or the potential to add more weight) which is useful for pulling trains up hills so they can climb rather well, but this can be offset by needing a taller gap under bridges so it depends what one is trying to do.
I have your BR blue diesels and blue/grey BR Mk1s to run on my layout I believe?
Thanks,
Alex
Or if you do want to experiment in 0-16.5, I think I can part with something!
You may find the potential space saving capabilities of 0-16.5 useful, as one can turn them in corners one daren't turn in 00!
Thanks,
Alex
"I love the way you call it Art, When you never even use your Heart, and I just wanna tear you Apart"
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Hello Everyone, I've finally got some pictures ready to post of the boards coming together. I've resized them to the 800 by 800 pixel guidelines, is that still the way to do it? Anyways, this gives you an idea of how the station board is going to be.
Alex.
And here is me doing my Nick Knowles DIY:SOS impression:
Thanks, Alex.
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