Cliches of Layouts or Model Railways that you dislike.

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trainsandco wrote:
flying scotsman123 wrote:
AndrewG wrote:I also dislike over-weathered stock.
me too, when i went to warley last year there was the company "grimy times" and what they actually did, for a fee of i don't know how much, coated your brand new sparkling loco in dirt :x :x :x
Which is how a lot of locomotives ran...

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i know, but this is model railways, so you are actually allowed to allow people to recognise what colour it is :x
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also, another gripe at reality, locos that creep about pulling one truck at a time. i dont care if they did or not, it looks silly :x
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My biggest gripe is OO modellers who complain that an item of stock is a mm to long or short when they have accepted that they are using trackwork that is seriously out of scale.
I accept it that P4 modellers can legitimately complain about incorrect dimensions.
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johnco wrote:My biggest gripe is OO modellers who complain that an item of stock is a mm to long or short when they have accepted that they are using trackwork that is seriously out of scale.
I accept it that P4 modellers can legitimately complain about incorrect dimensions.
Railway modelling is only a representation, not a perfect art, even P4 doesn't have a working fireman shovelling coal on the footplate of a steam loco. I agree about 'nit-pickers', and about a millimetre in length, who can tell when looking at a working layout at an exhibition from 4 feet away ?? Some of us don't have all the time in the world, let the suckers worry about every fine detail - and not get round to running anything.And 'flying scotman 123', along with others with petty gripes - get a life.
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I share the view of the last couple of poster that some modellers spend far too long criticising perfectly good models because they are not absolutely perfect. I started modelling again in the 1980s, when standards were considerably poorer than today, but consider this, apart from a few rivit counters, most people were extatic about the introduction of Lima (yes Lima) models. After decades of a limited Hornby model range we suddenly had a massively increased range of models. If you weren't totally happy with the standard, Monty Wells ran a series of articles in the Railway Modeller with suggested improvements that were within the skill set of most average modellers. In the words of Harald McMillan - "you have never had it so good".

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I would say that not only have we never had it so good, manufacturers now have the ability to supply models to a standard beyond what is needed for an operating model railway. Some of the currently produced details can only be really appreciated either by picking up the model (preferably in cotton gloves) and examining it at close quarters, or taking photographs of it using a close up lens. I really think the manufacturers should be sticking to good mechanical specification and dimensional accurate bodies, either leaving the super detailing to the after sales market, or offering the choice of the detail kit for DIY or factory applied for those for whom money is no problem. Several people have recently mentioned their great reluctance to take a hacksaw to a wonderfully finished model to produce something that they want. Now what was this thread about?
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Yep, i'd go with the Harold Macmillan thing. rtr when i was a lad, and i'm only 36! (next year i can do the peasants scene from The Holy Grail! :lol: :lol: ) was kind of basic compared to what you can pick up now from a variety of manufacturers, especially with ready to plonk down buildings, i don't do these myself, as i prefer to make things (or eventually get round to making lol) but the stuff available now, in comparison to a couple of decades ago, is well, likes been said already, pretty damned good quality.

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trainsandco wrote:
flying scotsman123 wrote:
AndrewG wrote:I also dislike over-weathered stock.
me too, when i went to warley last year there was the company "grimy times" and what they actually did, for a fee of i don't know how much, coated your brand new sparkling loco in dirt :x :x :x
Which is how a lot of locomotives ran...

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Oh, that poor Britannia... :cry:
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ngresley wrote:
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Oh, that poor Britannia... :cry:[/quote]

poor britannia? its helping that failed diesel clearly ;) don't you remember the story of 'Super-Rescue'?

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:D Hi all
Just been reading through this.and seem to think that some of have forgotten that we all started with a train set often a hornby one but some may have had other makes.So lets keep a sense of humour and keep doing our best.We were all juniors once in this great hobby so lets do the best we can and try to improve the mark 2/3/4/etc

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kevin sharpe wrote::D Hi all
Just been reading through this.and seem to think that some of have forgotten that we all started with a train set often a hornby one but some may have had other makes.So lets keep a sense of humour and keep doing our best.We were all juniors once in this great hobby so lets do the best we can and try to improve the mark 2/3/4/etc

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They are all glorified Train Sets ..... even P4 (particularly P4 steam)
You couldn't get a P4 layout to run trains with a station as the required platform length would be too long and any curves would take the complete hall.
Any locomotive powered by electricty from the wheels (particularly steam) is just a toy train as in fact they all are.

If you want a nice train set build it the way you want and if somebody dosen't like it that's their problem - Not yours.

Back to my garage to play trains mixing GWR steam with 06 diesel shunters that were confined to Scotland and anything else I fancy doing !!!

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Dad-1 wrote:
Back to my garage to play trains mixing GWR steam with 06 diesel shunters that were confined to Scotland and anything else I fancy doing !!!

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D2420 did get a gig at Reading!!!
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Dad-1 wrote:They are all glorified Train Sets ..... even P4 (particularly P4 steam)
You couldn't get a P4 layout to run trains with a station as the required platform length would be too long and any curves would take the complete hall.
Any locomotive powered by electricty from the wheels (particularly steam) is just a toy train as in fact they all are.

If you want a nice train set build it the way you want and if somebody dosen't like it that's their problem - Not yours.

Back to my garage to play trains mixing GWR steam with 06 diesel shunters that were confined to Scotland and anything else I fancy doing !!!

Geoff T.
I think calling them model railways may give some that sense of it "being okay to play with trains at "your" age" much like many of the toy soldier collectors who have to call them miniature models, miniature figurines etc... They are TOY SOLDIERS !! When I am off down the basement, I always say I am off downstairs to play with my trains/soldiers. :) Could careless what others think.
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