Dad-1 - Workbench - West Bay Wagon Works

What are you up to on your workbench
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A set of pictures showing the bunker top build.

The enlarged hole where the decoder socket was.

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The basic box that clips onto the body. Mostly made from scraps of Slaters brick plasticard !!

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Now with micro-strip rails from 0.75 x 0.5 plastic. I do have tons of plastic profiles & sheets.

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Here with a splash of matt black paint. I do enjoy trying to reclaim stuff !!

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Nice work, Geoff.
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It looks great. Coal on top and paint, and it will look great.
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Very neat! :)
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Thanks Guys,
I've been looking for a suitable piece of tube to make the water filling tower.
I think I may have found what I want. The guess is around 7.0 mm and a protective
paint brush sleeve fell out of my paint brush box - divine intervention ? it's 7.0 mm,
but more of a polythene type of plastic so superglue may not hold well enough ??

Too busy for a few days - new flooring going in the hall on Monday, everything being
disturbed and the whole house becomes a mess !!!

I did some playing around with old decoders I inherited from John's widow. Leads off,
one had not a single lead attached. Fine soldering, but it looks like I have something
like 5 that all work, set to address 03, a couple are now wired for motor only, but
that's exactly what I have fitted into this Adams Radial.

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The Roche drawing suggests the lid is 18" diameter, as measured off the drawing, the filler pipe O.D. marginally narrower. (All the usual caveats, never measure off a drawing, don't trust Roche to have it right, etc..)

Smart coal rails, it will look very neat once the flammable black stuff is dropped in.
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Thanks Bigmet,

MMmm 18" x 25.4 = 457.2 divide by 76 = 6.02 mm
I'll check to see if I have any 6.0 mm tube, O.K that'll give me a top
a little oversized, but who will notice ?
Quite pleased with my wild guess/estimate of 7.0 mm, not that far out,
perhaps as a percentage not so good, but I can live with it !!

I'm not one to muck about with old locos, more money than sense so I
always buy new, but I am quite enjoying the challenge. My black paint
isn't a good match to the loco finish, I shall try a second satin black coat.

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Not been doing much, other than my Bufferstop Diorama.
Tonight took this apart again as I wasn't happy about the alignment
of the driven main wheel set - It was the main drive gear on the axle
that had either moved, or had been made with a poor setting. That
has now been eased into the right location.

I've also had trouble running it. Why ??
It would develop wheel slip on most points. After much watching I
decided that the rear radial bogie was lifting the whole loco as driving
wheels went over the common crossing void.

I will file where it touches in an attempt to prevent the bogie taking any
load and thereby lifting drivers and loosing traction. I must re-check the
Hornby parts sheet as I think there should be a thin washer on the pivot
pin, not that I think that would solve the problem.

So not forgotten, or fully fixed yet, but I intend to get as I want.

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A Wagon !!

It's a long time since a 'new to me' wagon build
Last evening I started a Parkside PC.77 a BR 21 Ton Coal Hopper reaching
this stage before other things took over.

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The exterior fits well, but inner seams leave something to be desired.
A shame as it was my intention to run this, perhaps with a few more
in an empty condition. I already have 20 of the Dapol RTR version fitted
with full permanent fine power station coal loads.
First the hopper is built and then the chassis formed around this assembly.

Shouldn't take long to finish. Famous last words !!

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Err, well, a slight change of direction again !!

The wagon design is such that I had to paint most of the outside, you can't get
to it very well when the chassis is built under it.

So while that was drying I decided to add the water filler into the Adams radial
coal bunker.. I tried a couple of different quality paint brush protective sheaths.
Eventually deciding on the size you see here.
Then I had to make a filler top, round with just a small overlap. I tried trimming
another scrap piece of Slaters Brick, working down from a 9 mm square. It's as near
to round I could sand by hand !! The top handle is a small piece of 0.3 microstrip,
not in everybody's stash, but 45 years of plastic model making means I do have
some strange stuff.
Coal fill next step.

Here it is :-

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I should be doing my Bufferstop diorama, but am awaiting some grass flock - must
have it somewhere but can't find that one colour, have the other 3 I use with it.

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Nice job,Geoff. Will you put real coal in it?
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Hi peterm,

No, I don't believe that real coal scales that well.
I use a mixture of products. Gaugemaster do a glass like black coal
of a type Hornby once did, I have both. Then I mix with various other
mock coals, some of which need a thinned gloss black enamel paint
wash to give a slight sheen. Mostly Woodland Scenics black cinders
in any of the 3 scales.

Certainly will be added soon.

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Here are 6 of my coal materials.
Javis : Hornby : Gaugemaster
Volcanic gravel : Woodland Scenics fine : Woodland Scenics Medium

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Remember the highly thinned gloss black enamel paint will turn grey
into slightly shiny black.

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PVA set now.
I see the bunker top isn't fully clipped in, but here is my coal fill.
It will still have a thin gloss black enamel wash, to darken down slightly
give a suitable shine and aid the PVA glue, by additional sealing together.

Somewhere I have a hook with screw coupling that can go on this rear
buffer-beam. I wonder what was inserted into that hole in the bunkers
lower back centre ??

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I still can't find a suitable screw to fit down the chimney to help hold it
all together securely. Other than that it's becoming a usable locomotive, one
for which I have no real use. I wonder if I can find 2 BR green Mk.1 coaches ?

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Back at the end of December I started a Parkside PC77 21 ton BR hopper wagon,
only a few posts back. I had a second kit here and have started that before finishing
that first one.

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Some great news for me and any other Kadee user, these newer issue kits from Peco
have bright stainless steel wheels & axles. No magnetic creep !!! O.K they would benefit
from a splash of paint and do have slightly deeper flanges, not so good for any fine scale
enthusiast, but brilliant for the Kadee user. I spent some time shunting back & forth.

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