Sharp as Daggers again IJIjdagger wrote:Does Paddington bear know you`ve knicked his suitcase
Love this insane little project Pete! Its all twisted and warped...rather like me..
Cheers mate
Tim
The name of the town is Holstenwall, it is taken from an early Expressionist film by Robert Weine. I think your right if I called it anything else it was a typo. The name ‘Train to Holstenwall’ is part of the ‘idea’, the train never stops because it goes in a loop, so it’s an intended oxymoron to call it the train to Holstenwall, it’s part of the disjuncture of the concept. I had considered various names such as Der Zug des Alpträume, but I liked the train to Holstenwall best. I thought about doing it all in German, but it’s meant to be a toy, so this is the GB import version!!!Firstly the name of the layout. I'm not sure if it was called the Train To Holstenstein and is now called the Train To Holstenwall or whether the Holstenstein was a typo in the early postings but anyway my idea would be to call it the Night Train to Holstenstein but in german which I think would make it :
Nacht Zug Zu Holstenstein. I can see that in some suitable Gothic script and the double Z's could make it look really scary perhaps.
I’m not satisfied with the buildings, they were fun to build but they are not ‘Expressionist’ enough for me, I like the idea of tinplate, some thin aluminum would do it, and I could easily cut it easily too, an idea worth giving serious consideration. I tried carving some wooden ones too, but not with much success.Secondly: how about making the buildings out of tinplate. I think the 2D variations could be particularly effective this way and if you bend the tinplate outwards at the base would be self supporting. I've no idea where you get tinplate from other than tin cans of course but I guess you could flatten cans out and solder two sheets back to back. Just avoid the corrugated type.
The track is the track it came with, pre-ballasted, it’s not great, but it retains the toy trainset look, but some old steel track would probably be better. The Magic train will pull round a v tight rad though.I wonder if the circle of track is a bit too large and needs a large number of buildings to create the various scenes. Also the track looks a bit too regular. How about some narrow gauge style HO track with the usual rough sleepers if you can get set track versions of that. Alternatively you could distress the regular track in some way. I'm not sure what is the minimum radius for the Fleischmann magic train but it's short wheelbase would suggest something quite tight.
Yep, thought about a baseboard, I was thinking of a split cardboard board that fitted into the top of the suitcase or the box. It could be double sided to suit the scene. Just haven’t got round to exploring this idea fully.I was wondering about the 'baseboard'. Now I know it's a train set in a battered old suitcase so a baseboard is not possible but how about a circle of cloth? I see a faded dark grey circle with the track marked out in a lighter shade of bleached grey. I also see cobblestone type streets with the gaps between the cobbles picked out in the same way.
As to how you might make this: I guess you could lay out the track on the grey cloth and some mesh type material (chicken wire perhaps) for the cobble streets: Spray the whole lot with some waterproofing agent, let that dry, remove the tracks and 'streets' and then spray the unprotected cloth with a weak bleach solution. Hmm... might take a few attempts to get this right.
Again this is just off the idea a bit, the concept is that the train circles but doesn’t go to Holstenwall.I see the train running between (and round ) the scary buildings of Holstenstein (or Holstenwall) which of course could be arranged in different ways each time it is used.
Well if your thinking about it, then that’s good, it’s the whole idea. It doesn’t work that well in pictures, you need to see it in reality, and in conjunction with the contents of the box, the postcards, ration tickets, books, maps, etc etc. It all adds the experience, you make up the story yourself, you try to interpret it. Of course the whole thing is a complete fabrication, the ultimate answer is that there is no point, it’s just a random collection of mutually exclusive items. I'm not 100% certain why I started it now eitherWell I hope someone finds these ideas interesting and that I get a better nights sleep. Thinking about this layout has woken me up in the middle of the night for the last two nights!! Still I guess it was supposed to do that .
Maybe I'm a little off track (haha) on this one. I got it that the train does not go to Holstenwall but I assumed that you meant that there was no station and that the train never stopped. I didn't see any reason why the train shouldn't at least enter the city (town?) of Holstenwall and run through some of the outer streets. I just thought that if some of the buildings had sort of archways through them with the train running through (like city gates perhaps) then you could have little self contained scenes around the town.Pete wrote:Again this is just off the idea a bit, the concept is that the train circles but doesn’t go to Holstenwall.I see the train running between (and round ) the scary buildings of Holstenstein (or Holstenwall) which of course could be arranged in different ways each time it is used.