New Stanier Black 5

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Bigmet
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New Stanier Black 5

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I see the Hornby model is now on sale, anyone yet taken the plunge? First the 'Hurrah!', overall a convincing model based on the pictures I have seen, the front end in particular looks way better than all previous versions. That's despite the clumsy light up headcode lamps 'feature', something will have to be done to them. This is one I will buy when the opportunity offers, as they were regularly seen off home turf. (Just a 'standard' Walschaerts gear job, in overall LMR filth brown 'livery', numbers and most of the paintwork concealed; as a child I genuinely thought this appearance was a livery choice, I never saw a clean loco at Snorbens or Watford, whereas the traction on the ECML was black or green, other than the heavy freight types which were in the LMR 'livery''.)

The question for me, will Hornby do the sensible thing and renew the other truly ubiquitous Stanier loco, the 8F? And maybe one or two other LMS designs that have never yet had a RTR OO model? There's the Stanier 3P 2-6-2T and Fowler'Austin 7' 7F 0-8-0 going begging. I expect all this hangs on the sales of the Black 5.
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Re: New Stanier Black 5

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Seen a few YT vids where people have got their hands on this LMS version.

There's a bit too much silver on this model for my liking ie smoke box door hinges and driving wheel hubs and yes, I realise this loco was probably like that in 'real life.' I'll hang fire on this until the other livery versions are available before taking the plunge.

Reviews Ive seen appear to give it a big thumbs up.
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Locomotion now have a far more 'sober' version available, which looks way better. This is in 'as preserved' condition, LMS livery Black 5 as 5428 'Eric Treacy'. (This loco was only named after the LMS had long ceased to exist, whip off the plates, paint out the OHL warning flashes, to make a start on 'LMS-ing it'.)
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Bigmet wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:58 am Locomotion now have a far more 'sober' version available, which looks way better. This is in 'as preserved' condition, LMS livery Black 5 as 5428 'Eric Treacy'. (This loco was only named after the LMS had long ceased to exist, whip off the plates, paint out the OHL warning flashes, to make a start on 'LMS-ing it'.)
Just pre ordered it from Rails! Wifey's birthday or Chrissie present depending when it is actually available! We rode behind 'Eric' a few years ago on the NYMR so yeah, ideal.
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Re: New Stanier Black 5

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The online discussion about the releases thus far is happily consistent:
Appearance and accuracy, most are satisfied, applies to both Walschaerts and Caprotti valve gear versions.
The front end light up lamps can be removed and replaced with the supplied lamp irons, delicate touch required.
Runs well, but too light for the full size trains they were regularly seen hauling.
Adding significant weight to increase traction is possible.
Hornby should be onto a winner with this item in short, and given the ubiquity of the class on the UK network 1935 - 67 and in preservation operation, hopefullly planning to sell both the variants within the class, and to long term exploit an array of name, number and allocation versions.
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Re: New Stanier Black 5

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the silver paint looks like plastic painted silver - however as a wargamer I am used to this and the fix is extremely easy (so long as you don't mind adding a bit of paint) - get a black was and paint into the recesses, adds a lot of depth and can very quickly remove the painted plastic look (a flesh colour does the same for painted brass, and a brown for painted copper)

it looks good, the reliability from some reviews and build quality lets down what appears to be a very good design - some of which can be worked around with a hint of weathering or taking the time to set the light configuration as you want then taking care to leave it.

not cheap, these days what is?

overall if I was modelling an appropriate ear/location I'd probably be wanting to get one, but would get it from a supplier it can be returned to if its got mechanical/electrical issues
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