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Re: St. Blazey's - My first layout - Stage 3 Building

Postby End2end » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:14 pm

@ Luckymucklebackit "Libraries" Mines not closing down it's getting bigger! :lol:

Researching the covex plastic rod idea for the ridge tiles I found Evergreen to be fairly expensive for what I need so a bit of digging came up with this cheaper product
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5x-Styrene-S ... 1438.l2649
Manufactured by serious-play in Cornwall, UK
I'm just waiting for some items I am selling to end on the bay this week to buy it.
My birthday is coming up next month so I have asked for the 2 L-cut GWR canopy trim Items (along with an EFE 20102 bus destination Newquay) from a family member so that will give me some time to finish the main building before adding those extra details.

Railway modelling...sometimes it's roofless! :shock: :lol:
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Postby TimberSurf » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:45 pm

I have bought job lots of 40, with a range of sizes from China at circa £10 a pack (very cheap), but have had issues with the wrapping sticking to the product, the sizes vary widely along the length, profile is not symmetrical and the surface texture is poor.

Manufactured by serious-play in Cornwall, UK
Just be aware they import from china, so the quality is rather poor compared to the likes of Plastruct and Evergreen, but in fairness is a really good price. (I have bought lots from them)
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Postby End2end » Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:12 pm

Thanks for the warning Timbersurf. For £1.80 I'll give it a gamble. :wink:
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Postby End2end » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:40 am

The covex plastic rod arrived but the gap between the Linka tiles at the ridge was far too wide for the rod.
I changed tack and used some square Linka rods instead, glued in the roof apex gap lying on thier edge.
This gives me the proper "A" shape for the ridge.
Once dry I sanded the rods back to be more flush with the roof tiles.
The whole building is now sitting in the garden drying after a coating of grey undercoat.
I still need to add the 2 chiminies and stacks but need to glue them together first.
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Postby End2end » Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:16 pm

A little painting progress beyond the undercoat.
Still quite a way to go to lighten the roof and darken the stonework before I can start adding the brown and cream livery to the doors and windows and then settling it all down somewhat.
Platform side
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Road / Street side - This side won't be seen so doesn't need to be over-elaborate, just lined up with the internal rooms so light shines in/out of the various windows.
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Here you can see the underside of the roof painted black and the internal walls getting thier first coat of cream
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Finally it is starting to look like a building. :)
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Postby End2end » Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:30 pm

Slowly but surely, full paint layer by dry brush layer it's coming along.
Again starting with the road / unseen side.
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And the platform side.
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And 2 shots of the ends of the building.
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That's looking a lot better. :D
I still want to dry brush some more dark grey just to lift the last layer which was the dark grey but mixed with a little black wash.
This has darkened some areas a little too much so just need lightening to blend in better.
Not shown is I have also painted the inner floors dark grey, all internal walls cream and tried to paint the internal doors the same as the external doors (brown and cream). I did this by just painting over everything with the cream first then attempted to paint the brown on. It's a little messy but I doubt it will be seen anyway. I think the lights through the leaded light windows will distract the eye even if you could see the internals. :)

I still need to find a source of opaque plastic for the privacy windows. Does anyone have any suggestions?

My Scalecast/Linka window transparencies have finally turned up (ordered in June), some of them as barred windows. I will use these for some of the smaller windows.
I've still yet to put my mind to which rooms will be lit as I'm not sure all need it and how to implement it so it is removable.
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Postby TimberSurf » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:20 pm

It looks fantastic at that distance, Linka stone always turns out much better than brick! :(
The roof looks great 8) . I would pick out some wall stones a bit darker, to imitate not all being the same.

End2end wrote:I still need to find a source of opaque plastic for the privacy windows. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Plastic milk bottle, any packaging that is printed white
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Postby End2end » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:32 pm

TimberSurf wrote:Plastic milk bottle

Of course!! :o
Well done Timbersurf. :mrgreen: I think there maybe one in the bin. :)

Good idea with the bricks too. I was going on rough memories of Cornish buildings which look kind of the same all over, made of stone with different shades of grey.
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Postby Pete » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:02 pm

I still need to find a source of opaque plastic for the privacy windows. Does anyone have any suggestions?

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by opaque plastic, isn't most plastic opaque? Or do you mean translucent? Tracing paper rather than plastic might do the job, looks like frosted glass. If I've miss understood just ignore me :)

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Postby End2end » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:16 pm

No. Sadly Pete, most of it is transparent. :? Probably something to do with being able to see the goods inside any packaging.
From google....
opaque
adjective: opaque; comparative adjective: opaquer; superlative adjective: opaquest
1. not able to be seen through; not transparent.


I feel tracing paper wouldn't be sturdy enough, whereas plastic would hold it's shape.
Thanks for the idea though. :)
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Postby TimberSurf » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:29 pm

Interesting query!

Opaque - not able to be seen through; not transparent.

Translucent - allowing light, but not detailed shapes, to pass through; semi-transparent.

Dictionary makes it more confusing! The technical term in the glass industry is:-

Obscured - keep from being seen; conceal.

Obscuration glass is too difficult to say, so Window companies call it Privacy glass :lol:

Grandma calls it frosted!

As mentioned, paper, tracing paper and even tissue (great for net curtain simulation) will work, but be warned, they all turn yellow after some years!
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Postby End2end » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:37 pm

TimberSurf wrote:Grandma calls it frosted!

Me too. :lol:
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Postby End2end » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:06 am

I'm almost ready to start adding the windows. I have a large cut up milk bottle for the frosted windows and have had an idea but not sure it will work.

I have an idea to place some clear acetate like plastic over the milk bottle peice I will use, to make it seem glass-like / shiny on the outside.
What I'm not sure of is what glue to use to stick the plastic together and to the plaster (now painted) inside wall.
I have UHU and gorrila super glue (which sets quite quickly giving little time for repositioning). Are any of these ok to use?
I don't want to stick the plastic together if I can help it so it doesn't show.
I'd rather glue both plastics at the edge gluing to the wall at the same time.
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Re: St. Blazey's - My first layout - Stage 3 Building

Postby Pete » Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:03 am

Grandma calls it frosted!


Not just Grandma, you just need to look in the right technical dictionary ;)

"Frosting

The process of giving a glass surface a matt finish, thus reducing transparency. Frosting may be by means of acid treatment (pouring hydrofluoric acid onto the glass), sandblasting, special glue application and subsequent removal, or mechanical etching with a grinding wheel."

I'm going to labour the tracing paper point, I buy cheap pads in the Works or similar discount stationars, it's quite stiff, but you could stick it to a plastic backing too (I use UHU). I've never known it go yellow... but who knows after time.

You can see where I've used it on this little stopping point (N Gauge):

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Of course you could achieve a true frosted look by sanding your clear plastic, a bit of fine wet and dry would do the trick.



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Postby End2end » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:28 am

I managed to pick up another Gorilla glue "Brush and nozzle" tube at the weekend which I've used to stick the windows in.
Using the brush is so much easier to get the glue where you want it. Although in my station building some of the "rooms" are so small I managed to get some glue on the windows. :roll:

I haven't fitted all the windows yet but as they were drying I started on the lighting rig so I could do 2 jobs at the same time.
Now the lighting rig is complete with 6 LED's and lampshades, ceiling painted and fits snugly inside.
I'll add some pictures once I've taken some.
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