Dad-1 - Workbench - West Bay Wagon Works

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Postby Dad-1 » Tue May 15, 2018 12:31 pm

Slow I know, been waiting for paints to dry !!
Had it's second coat of Bauxite, currently still damp, but have given the
running boards a woodish coloured undercoat.

Still needs it's extended stove-pipe chimney, roof painting and several
lamp brackets.

Finishing is such a drag, getting to decals is what will make it come
alive.

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Back to other jobs !

Geoff T.
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Postby Dad-1 » Thu May 17, 2018 8:23 am

All construction finished
Wot no decals - Ahh that's because the decal sheet that comes with
the kit was duff !! A press-fix type, but one that had no adhesive to either
hold in place when pressed, or when wet and tissue removed. Now had to
order a HMRS decal sheet from which I can get everything except the allocation
name 'Thirsk' that I wanted to use !!

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Postby Dad-1 » Sun May 20, 2018 8:24 pm

HMRS decal sheet in - Job (almost) done !

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Gateshead being the only suitable decal for an allocation address.
I will try a few ideas on the duff decal sheet, I've not given up on
it yet, this is finished short of a light weathering and overall
varnish therefore if I screw up the original sheet nothing lost !!

Not easy, but great fun and I like the results.

Geoff T.
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Postby Lysander » Sun May 20, 2018 10:21 pm

Really attractive build Geoff. Birdcage stock is fascinating. I still want one and did find photos of an LMS (probably ex-LNWR) one, but it couldn’t really be bashed from the NE kit. I’m sure I’ve seen photos of a pre-grouping Welsh one too, but I can’t find the source.

Tony
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Postby Dad-1 » Tue May 22, 2018 9:06 am

Hi Tony,

While it's unusual for me to do pre-grouping stock it's your bread & butter,
certainly those 4 & 6 wheels coaches are !!

The birdcage job is for my buddy Derek and not only did I put more care into
it, but also found it a fascinating subject. However while that was taking
centre-stage there are a few other jobs going on. Here we see a Parkside
12 ton plywood van painted in Bauxite, a Ratio Southern 12 ton plywood
van with a fist 'undercoat' of faded brown. Then we have painting starting
on a Dapol 16 ton mineral that I made up in 1.1/2 hours last Tuesday at a
club night 'teach-in' session. From parts to running in that time was of course
only part of a job, now needing painting, load, decals & weathering.

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The decalled van is an early un-fitted 12 ton van made using an un-painted
'kit' for the want of another word from Dapol.

I may not be on NRM much at the moment, but keeping very busy still.

Geoff T.
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Re: Dad-1 - Workbench - West Bay Wagon Works

Postby Lysander » Tue May 22, 2018 10:03 am

Ditto Geoff, but I'm pretty busy still, too [although a week in Spain beckons again!].

Those Ratio Southern plywoods are nice kits, I've made a few and it's a pleasure, once in a while, to make something which just goes together like it should! I'm 75% of the way through the second LMS 6 wheeler and a third is about 10% done. I'll be pleased to finish them because there is so much else to build, but seeing your freight stock makes me wonder whether an excursion back into mixed freight might be on the cards......

Tony
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Postby Dad-1 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:35 am

Not been doing much over the last couple of weeks.
I've finished Derek's Ratio SR ply van kit and as Lysander says, it's an easy kit
looks good and runs well. Here is the best shot I have of it, being his kit I
didn't do many photographs.

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He wanted a loose coupled version and it was plonked on the end of my current
diorama build, hence it being part of this scene.

Well I simply couldn't live without a few kits to make, as a result I've put another
10 into stock. The first will be another pair of those Ratio SR Ply vans, both fitted.
One BR numbered in Bauxite, the other in small logo Southern.
I will take some photos of these going through.

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Postby Dad-1 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:54 am

O.K it's dull and just started to rain ............But I managed to cut the grass first !!

Here we have the contents of two of the Ratio SR/BR 12 ton plywood vans kits, No.593.
A few thing I like about these kits is a quite comprehensive instruction sheets, Metal
axle sets complete with brass bearing inserts, and a decal sheet with a few options.

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I will be starting after lunch as the dear lady is out this afternoon.

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Postby Dad-1 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:00 pm

I didn't get as far as expected.
I do have to make a purchase though. Looking into my couplings tin
I find I've run out of Bachmann short tension lock versions, only have
a few of the long version, but these would increase separation of stock.
One almost ready for painting

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The small pile of plastic parts for couplings destined for my bin.

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Work in the yard stopped after a courier delivered another load of
Bachmann Collector Club stock boxes.

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These need the interior trays making up and what a mess of small cutout
waste accrues while doing it. Had to then clean up afterwards !!
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Postby Dad-1 » Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:19 am

Away for a few days - didn't get finished in time.

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My couplings should arrive today before we go.

Geoff T.
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Postby Dad-1 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:57 am

There may be a video - Youtube permitting, as it's thrown it's dummy out
of the pram !!

https://youtu.be/c162zU6miwU

This should be a video of mostly kit built wagons running around my garage test track St Oval.
When I started kit making I bodged up some couplings that proved less than 100% reliable and
have now cut away to replace with Parkside (Peco) PA-34 mounting blocks.

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Re: Dad-1 - Workbench - West Bay Wagon Works

Postby Dad-1 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:14 pm

Rather busy at the moment on 'life' !!
Managed to find time this morning before it got too hot
to splash another wash over 3 x 16 Ton wagons that need
a coal load adding.
Still not hard enough to stick in with the 50/50 mix, but
just waiting, now all ready to go !!

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These were built back January time ? All Dapol kits
The top left had it's load glued in yonks ago.
My coal mix is some Gaugemaster, Jarvis, Hornby with
just a little woodland scenics fine black cinders.

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Re: Dad-1 - Workbench - West Bay Wagon Works

Postby Mountain » Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:31 pm

I tend to divert a few pieces of coal to save it from being swallowed up by the stove! We dont use coal much as it is expensive and wood is free. I usually also use paper bricks but they are rather time consuming to make.
I take it you dont live in aa coal mining area? Near here coal miners used to have an allowance of coal, and some had so much that they built garden walls with it and whitewashed the walls to make them look like stone. Apparently many of the walls of back gardens in one of the nearby villages was supposed to be made from coal, though I would imagine that most has been used up by now.
Strangely, a dog we used to have used to sneak a few pieces of coal from the bucket and eat it. Its all vegetation I guess! Doesn't taste that good as I tried it.
Enjoying 7mm narrow gauge.

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Postby Dad-1 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:29 pm

Hi Mountain,

I find real coal too much of a problem to get the right sized flakes for my requirement.
I do have a couple of lumps here hanging in my garage in an (Old) plastic bag ( non-biodegradable)
I really don't understand people who feel that only real coal looks like coal, some things don't always
scale so well, particularly water. I also found a substitute for chalk which I think looks better than
chips off the real big lump of chalk I again have hanging in the garage.

By blending in of several carefully collected coal/cinder substitutes I can also change the appearance
in my coal bins as commercial coal came is several different screened sizes, something you rarely see
represented on most models.

Now I'm always happy to share the things that don't work as well as expected so others can learn from
my fixes. I've been running these coal wagons with some empties and I was getting several unwanted
de-railments. When rocking the wagons diagonally some exhibited movement, others didn't run as smoothly
as they should and wobbled as they ran. The answer that I've used before, again solved my problem.
I removed the Dapol wheel sets and replaced with Hornby from my 45 tonne oil tankers, these have a
deeper flange than the Dapol. Strangely the 45 tonne tanks when fitted with the removed Dapol wheel
sets continued to run well !!
Another annoying fault bypassed !!

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Re: Dad-1 - Workbench - West Bay Wagon Works

Postby Dad-1 » Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:27 am

At long last I've decalled my Parkside Pallet Van.
No real extenuating circumstances, just that halfway through painting it was put up
into my loft, then into a Bachmann collectors club stock box and more or less forgotten.
Even now the chassis has not been painted, but that can and will be done after decalling.

Before adding markings I checked all my wagon books and it seems this is a difficult van
to number as this kit has the early chassis used on just 36 vans. All bar 3 had "Return to"
instructions and no decals I've ever seen had the correct return locations, Just 3 vans
were left, B761351 - 53 as luck would have it I had B761's on one Fox sheet and 351 on
another - problem solved - what problem ?

My eyes are struggling nowadays, I couldn't find a suitable weight and had to cut an '8'
from one decal to replace a cut-away '7' from another and those tare weight markings
are rather small, let alone manipulating into place !!

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Now I have to touch-up a few bauxite marks from that original paint job.
Nice 'different' wagon to have in the rake, but need to remember these were made in 1954
so not to add to any GWR, or LMS train !!

Geoff T.
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