HST 43046 - 43080 Loco + Dummy. 3 or 5 pole?

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HST 43046 - 43080 Loco + Dummy. 3 or 5 pole?

Postby End2end » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:49 pm

Does anyone know if the loco in the Hornby HST 43046/43080 Loco + Dummy set has a 3 or 5 pole motor?
Apologies, I don't know the actual model number. Only those numbers printed on the front of the cars.
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Re: HST 43046 - 43080 Loco + Dummy. 3 or 5 pole?

Postby Bramshot » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:07 pm

Can you see the armature? If so, you should be able to count the poles?

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Re: HST 43046 - 43080 Loco + Dummy. 3 or 5 pole?

Postby End2end » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:18 pm

No, sadly not.
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Re: HST 43046 - 43080 Loco + Dummy. 3 or 5 pole?

Postby Bufferstop » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:43 pm

If they are original Hornby not ex Lima the bogies come out very easily, grip the body firmly in one hand, the bogie in the other. Push the bogie back towards the centre of the car at the same time tilt the outer end downward. You'll feel the retainer slide out of the body. It's then just a matter of lifting it carefully out. There will be at least one wire connected to the block. Turning the centre drive cog look through the holes in the frame to see the copper segments go past. 3 pole are 120° apart, 5 pole 72°, (obviously more than 90° as compared to slightly less). Alternatively you could mark a segment with a soft pencil lead, it's the same stuff as the brushes are made from! Ex Lima bogies are held in in a similar manner, but require a screw to be undone to release the holding tab. You can't see into Lima motors, well none that I've seen.
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Re: HST 43046 - 43080 Loco + Dummy. 3 or 5 pole?

Postby End2end » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:49 pm

Erm..............I don't own it yet. :? :lol:
It's one on sale ending today that I wanted to gather information on before deciding wether to buy it or not.
There's loads of grey roofed versions but I want black. 8)
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Re: HST 43046 - 43080 Loco + Dummy. 3 or 5 pole?

Postby Bufferstop » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:58 pm

Don't worry the 3 pole is not that bad in the HST, and since the bogie comes out so easy it's a piece of cake to substitute a five pole.. I'm not that clued up on Hornby's acquisition of Lima. Did they acquire the improved chassis design or just the old pancake motor one.
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Re: HST 43046 - 43080 Loco + Dummy. 3 or 5 pole?

Postby Mountain » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:01 pm

If the loco does not pull well and you have bought it secondhand, try changing the traction tyres.
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Re: HST 43046 - 43080 Loco + Dummy. 3 or 5 pole?

Postby End2end » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:07 pm

Is there anywhere I can find information on all the swallow liveried HST's that Hornby have released upto now?

I know there's a DCC one coming at £299.99 not yet released but I mean previous to that one.
Perhaps including details like which motor is inside / pure Hornby or ex-lima / working head and tail lights and even pictures of them all?
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Re: HST 43046 - 43080 Loco + Dummy. 3 or 5 pole?

Postby RAFHAAA96 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:13 pm

Hornbyguide.com and search on HST, then look for the livery.
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Re: HST 43046 - 43080 Loco + Dummy. 3 or 5 pole?

Postby End2end » Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:51 pm

Thanks Rob that's perfect :)
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