Panel Mounted Guagemaster upgrade to case??

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Panel Mounted Guagemaster upgrade to case??

Postby lou2000 » Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:25 am

Hello,
I have had a twin UDF panel mounted guagemaster since about 25/ 30 years
Im about to pass on to my kids with the hornby Thomas & Percy locos - however Im not happy about the configuration safety. Are there any ready made cases to fit the panel and transformer?? If not has oneone made one with mains junction boxes? They seem a good shape?

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Re: Panel Mounted Guagemaster upgrade to case??

Postby b308 » Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:03 am

Safety wise it's only got a 16vAC input and 12vDC output so there's no chance of electrocution. I'd be more concerned about the kids damaging the interior bits myself. Just make a wooden box out of 6mm ply and mount it in that. Make sure there are air holes in the sides to let it breath and make it big enough for air to circulate and you will be ok. I doubt there was a specially made box for it as it was designed to be mounted into a control panel, not loose.

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Re: Panel Mounted Guagemaster upgrade to case??

Postby Flashbang » Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:47 am

Hi According to Gaugemaster web site the twin UDF is 120mm x 105mm (panel)
15mm deep (aperture).
This sloping from ABS box may be suitable?... link 1 Possibly mounting transformer sideways on the rear wall?
or this one?
Link 2
Or...
Link 3

A Google search for Enclosures or ABS Boxes etc should reveal plenty that are suitable :D
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Re: Panel Mounted Guagemaster upgrade to case??

Postby TimberSurf » Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:12 am

As above for the controller, if it is a open frame transformer, then if you can't also box that, replace it with a modern WallWart PSU.
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Re: Panel Mounted Guagemaster upgrade to case??

Postby lou2000 » Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:39 pm

Flashbang wrote:Hi According to Gaugemaster web site the twin UDF is 120mm x 105mm (panel)
15mm deep (aperture).
This sloping from ABS box may be suitable?... link 1 Possibly mounting transformer sideways on the rear wall?
or this one?
Link 2
Or...
Link 3

A Google search for Enclosures or ABS Boxes etc should reveal plenty that are suitable :D

These lool great, good idea! Should I place the transformer in side too or will that create too much heat? I dont mind putting the transferformer in its box if better. Also I have a Relco cleaner? (A) is it worth wiring in, ie do they actually work and (B) I only have one Relco cleaner, should I have two for a twin control unit? Many Thanks

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Re: Panel Mounted Guagemaster upgrade to case??

Postby b308 » Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:02 pm

What sort of transformer have you got?

As mentioned there are plenty of wall mounted (ones that go into the mains plug socket) around these days which would be suitable. Personally i wouldn't put the transformer in the same box as the controller, Gaugemaster and others make a controller that has the transformer and controller in the same box but they are designed that way, making your own isn't recommended unless you are fully trained.

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Re: Panel Mounted Guagemaster upgrade to case??

Postby lou2000 » Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:19 pm

b308 wrote:What sort of transformer have you got?

As mentioned there are plenty of wall mounted (ones that go into the mains plug socket) around these days which would be suitable. Personally i wouldn't put the transformer in the same box as the controller, Gaugemaster and others make a controller that has the transformer and controller in the same box but they are designed that way, making your own isn't recommended unless you are fully trained.


I'm competant, I just dont know know the affect of heat on the guagemaster. Ive picked up a box with vents from Maplin for £3.

Im not sure whether to bother with the Relco? Any advice?

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Re: Panel Mounted Guagemaster upgrade to case??

Postby lou2000 » Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:21 pm

b308 wrote:What sort of transformer have you got? .


I believe it's the Guagemaster 2x16v

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Re: Panel Mounted Guagemaster upgrade to case??

Postby b308 » Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:11 pm

If it's this one, then it's already in a case so you don't need to put it in the case with the controller.

http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=GMC-M1

If it's like this one and you have kids playing with the trains then get rid of it and get a cased one like the one above...

http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=GMC-T1

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Re: Panel Mounted Guagemaster upgrade to case??

Postby lou2000 » Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:28 pm

b308 wrote:If it's this one, then it's already in a case so you don't need to put it in the case with the controller.

http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=GMC-M1

If it's like this one and you have kids playing with the trains then get rid of it and get a cased one like the one above...

http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=GMC-T1


Its the lower, but Im putting it inside the case Ive bought.
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Re: Panel Mounted Guagemaster upgrade to case??

Postby TimberSurf » Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:36 pm

Cool box, (pun intended), dont forget a On/Off mains switch and think about fusing the Tx outputs
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Re: Panel Mounted Guagemaster upgrade to case??

Postby b308 » Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:37 pm

Looks smart but if you've got kids playing with it make sure it's sealed and they can't get into it.

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Re: Panel Mounted Guagemaster upgrade to case??

Postby Mountain » Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:41 pm

Also dont share windings on the transformer if you can help it. :)
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Re: Panel Mounted Guagemaster upgrade to case??

Postby Bufferstop » Sat Apr 07, 2018 12:03 pm

If you were trying to get he transformer in that case through British Standards, or any other approval you would need an earthed metal shield (probably mesh) around the transformer so that anyone poking a metal object in through the slots couldn't make contact with the mains voltage connections, or alternatively mount the transformer in such a way as it acted as its own shield for them.
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