Rolling road

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Rammy
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Re: Rolling road

Postby Rammy » Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:23 pm

Looks like an interesting concept Beeman. I look forward to seeing your attempt.
I have been thinking about this for a while and whilst at first it appears easy I am sure it isn't.
Please prove me wrong so I can have a go too!

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Re: Rolling road

Postby peroni » Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:27 pm

I bought 2 of these as they are cheap enough
E-Z Riders w/Ball Bearing Rollers HO/On30 (4), Bachmann Model Trains, BAC42901
26.41 Euro 22.30 GBP

http://www.wholesaletrains.com/Detail.asp?ID=200512153

Here in Australia there is no tax if you buy something overseas that is under $1000
I don't know what things are like in the UK, in this regard, perhaps someone could let me know.

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Re: Rolling road

Postby Rammy » Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:02 pm

peroni wrote:I bought 2 of these as they are cheap enough
E-Z Riders w/Ball Bearing Rollers HO/On30 (4), Bachmann Model Trains, BAC42901
26.41 Euro 22.30 GBP

http://www.wholesaletrains.com/Detail.asp?ID=200512153

Here in Australia there is no tax if you buy something overseas that is under $1000
I don't know what things are like in the UK, in this regard, perhaps someone could let me know.


List price for those in the UK is £38 per pack! However I have seen an ebay seller selling 1 pack of each with and w/o bearings for £36 for both packs here
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Re: Rolling road

Postby Rammy » Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:13 pm

Looking at these they don't look that hard to make actually.
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Re: Rolling road

Postby beeman » Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:40 pm

This is the Mk 3. design I settled on. The bearings I used are 5x10x4. This created a slight problem as the fixing screw heads, which were hexagon, need to be reduced in diameter to allow the older Hornby wheel flanges to clear. Also the washer fitted between the bearing and the slotted angle must not foul the O/D of the bearing, or it w'ont rotate. . Initially I intended to fit 2 bearings to each driving wheel,similar to the commercial ones, but decided to have one only.The remedy for the two previous glitches is to have a larger bearing although this increases the cost to about £1.00 each, worth it to get rid of glitches.. A 5x16x5 would eliminate these probs, or whatever size the constructor decides upon. I decided to have an adjustable 'stop' at the front of the loco, The 'swing over' device can be seen which sits behind the loco cab, piece of rubber tube on it, to 'arrest' the rear of the loco.This is clamped/positioned with the bent washers and screws onto the base.leaving a small amount of play, such that the locos driving wheels sit on top of the bearings.These are adjusted to cater for the differing wheelbase dimensions. The dwg. of the slots cut into the angle seem to provide satisfactory adjustment for most locos, no 2-10-0 so not included in requirements. I realised after the initial test/tryout, What about Hornby Ringfield tenders, so minor alterations were made as can be seen from the pics. I suggested previously that an item like this could be made for at most £12/15.00. The bearings and other bits, bolts/washers can be obtained from 'Technobots' or 'Ripmax' accessories for those wishing to have a go, After perusing the commercial R/Roads available they all need to be set up initially, whether of a free standing design, or fixed to OO track to cater for individual loco wheelbase dimensions. It is simple to set up needing the appropriate spanners and a rule or dividers to transfer the locos axle distances to the rollers. The outer Nyloc type nuts are fitted only to provide a finger grab on the end to help when setting up. These being quite tight when screwed thro the nylon insert. The slotted angle is screwed to the wood base block so the inside edge of the bearings are 16mm apart. I started using nylon through bolts to carry each side bearings but mounting singly was the simpler option for anyone wanting to construct. The through bolt idea required an insulated sleeve as well as the through bolt to keep the two sides insulated from each other. good luck, Beeman.
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rolling roaddwg.jpg (190.01 KiB) Viewed 1980 times
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rolling road 009.jpg (322.4 KiB) Viewed 1984 times
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rolling road 008.jpg (338.04 KiB) Viewed 1980 times
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DSCF0111[1].jpg (433.09 KiB) Viewed 1978 times
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DSCF0110[1].jpg (418.64 KiB) Viewed 1974 times
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Re: Rolling road

Postby beeman » Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:46 pm

These were further pics of the rolling road, Beeman.
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DSCF0108[1].jpg (433.55 KiB) Viewed 1970 times
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DSCF0106[1].jpg (367.19 KiB) Viewed 1965 times
rolling road 002.jpg
rolling road 002.jpg (347.77 KiB) Viewed 1947 times
rolling road 001.jpg
rolling road 001.jpg (265.6 KiB) Viewed 1943 times
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Re: Rolling road

Postby GeraldH » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:20 am

Can anyone recommend the Hornby rolling road, or one made by another manufacturer? I don't have the time or inclination to make one myself.

Are there any other uses for them - apart from running in locos and looking for faults while a loco is running?
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Re: Rolling road

Postby james2k » Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:45 pm

Theres a seller on ebay that makes them? There about £80 though.

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Re: Rolling road

Postby noel » Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:51 am

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Keep an eye open for these.

They are roller bearing guides for bandsaws.

They each contain 2 small roller bearings with a 3mm hole, that
may be useful down to N gauge.


Roller Blade Guides.JPG
Roller Blade Guides.JPG (8.38 KiB) Viewed 1765 times




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Re: Rolling road

Postby noel » Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:37 pm

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These large files slow downloads, and take up
a lot of storage.

This is what can be done from 433Kb down to just 18Kb.

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Re: Rolling road

Postby Gronk12 » Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:15 pm

All very Heath Robinson...

...it will certainly never break under load with that level of construction :shock:

With the time you spent sourcing all the materials, paying for, collecting, for postage and packaging to have bits sent to you, then the spending of numerous hours, days weeks even months making several prototypes until you finaly came out with one that works - would it have not been easier and cheaper (certainly time wise) to have just spent your monies on the likes of DCC concepts or a Hornby 'from the box' manufacturer made unit?

For something a bit more refined...

http://www.rollingrails.co.uk/
http://www.hmrg.co.uk/techtops/rolling.htm
http://www.metalsmith.co.uk/index.htm
http://www.modeltrainsuk.com/ROLLINGROAD.htm
http://forum.mtimag.co.uk/viewtopic.php ... 756e06c17a

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Re: Rolling road

Postby beeman » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:20 pm

Is the end result not similar to building a layout??, especially if one uses discarded materials , such as insulation board for landscaping and discarded timber offcuts from the builders skip, or making ones own trees that look like real trees, out of various materials. Many who do not possess the abilities to do likewise, pay out to achieve :( . There is also one primary reason, and that is pride and satisfaction that one did it oneself.whatever 'branch' of our hobby it may be,and this 'exercise' only cost me a few Quid.the 'labour' costs being incidental at 72 years, :D Thought I would add these 3 links just for 'Gronk 12' to show him some more 'Heath Robinsons' creations. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=35000 http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index. ... ntry311012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6l8fx9qhFw
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Re: Rolling road

Postby Gronk12 » Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:31 pm

Thank you Beeman you are certainly a most gifted person when it comes to applying your skills - have you patented the fiddle yard 'jukebox' concept - that is an excellent build.


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