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Re: emu arcing

Postby THE CHIEF » Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:35 pm

Thats a good idear. On my layout im building at the moment im fitting some push to make switches between the pins and track feeds. That way it gives me a push-to-arc button. Theres also a master on-off so I can leave them all live.

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Re: emu arcing

Postby BROADTRAIN1979 » Sat Apr 24, 2010 2:05 am

Hi chief :D did i say gone off you ?? no never, Thanks for info and pics. I will be using this ,hopefully in the future ,once ive done the 3rd rail and ballasting .
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Re: emu arcing

Postby THE CHIEF » Sat Apr 24, 2010 4:32 am

BROADTRAIN1979 wrote:Hi chief :D did i say gone off you ?? no never, Thanks for info and pics. I will be using this ,hopefully in the future ,once ive done the 3rd rail and ballasting .
Regards Mark. :)


Cool, thats quite nice to someone use my idear. let me know how you get on :)

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Re: emu arcing

Postby musketter » Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:56 am

Is there any chance of a longer video ?

Brilliant idea though

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Re: emu arcing

Postby sapper_k » Thu May 20, 2010 4:23 pm

i have bein "toying" with this idea myself but going about it a different way

using surface mount LED's (as there mm in size)

hide them behind rails in points (or wherever you want an "arc") with 2 pins for the conductors then have a small hanging conductor on the bottom of whatever loco..... to join the 2

i feel this would give a realistic effect as wouldnt be as bright and can come from whatever side of the track you like
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Re: emu arcing

Postby BROADTRAIN1979 » Tue May 25, 2010 10:54 pm

Hi chief stupid :?: but the pins you use for the arcing ,what type are they and do they need to go through the sleepers or just in front through the board? as my track is all painted now, apart from the ballasting and 3rd rail ,which im due to do, as i want to have a go at this and is it the motor or dummy car that is used :?:
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Re: emu arcing

Postby THE CHIEF » Wed May 26, 2010 10:49 pm

Doesnt really matter where the pin goes. I used the sort of pins that come in a sewing kit :) They are long enoghf to go through the board. You should be able to get these pins from any corner shop. Did you call me cheif stupid lol :D

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Re: emu arcing

Postby BROADTRAIN1979 » Thu May 27, 2010 5:46 pm

Hi chief,,,, :lol: sorry, my grammer, still needs attention, just like some of my locos. Thanks for advice :)
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Re: emu arcing

Postby BROADTRAIN1979 » Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:49 pm

HI all,
I have now completed my 3rd rail, :shock: which i will show pics of soon, As the chief gave great inspiration and a great idea( not crawling honest :lol: ) I came about ,this idea :idea: As the 3rd rail, is separate from the running rails, why not power it, :?: using a separate controller .Wire each piece of 3rd rail , connect it to the spare dc controller. If dcc, connect the 3rd rail wires, to the running bus wires, using ONLY! the same dcc controller as using 2 of the same will blow the dcc controllers. Then add to the side of bogie, a piece of copper bowed, as shaped into a pickup, lightly
brushing the 3rd rail ,obviously ,checking for any obstructions :)
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Re: emu arcing

Postby THE CHIEF » Sat Sep 25, 2010 2:57 am

I thought about this myself at one point. I had it rigged so that the steam used the normal running rails and the EMU the third rail. The problem i found was curved track. The skid tended to leave the rail and stop the train. It would need a bit of swing. It works well on straight track and has the same affect as dcc. If you can get it working properly let me know.

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Re: emu arcing

Postby BROADTRAIN1979 » Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:58 am

Will do chief, Im just experimenting with it at the moment :)
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Re: emu arcing

Postby BROADTRAIN1979 » Sat Sep 25, 2010 3:38 pm

Hi all :( :(
well, looks like my idea is a no no :cry: there isnt enough power to give a good arc. litterly invisible :cry: I have really toyed with this, still, was worth a try. Chief I will stick with your idea :wink: .As im dcc and not dc, does it matter :?: i mean, as both tracks are live, would i need to swap, the led around or would it work both ways :| :?:
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Re: emu arcing

Postby poliss » Sat Sep 25, 2010 4:36 pm

Viessmann make an Arcing Effect kit for pantographs (item 5068). Osborns say it could also be used for 3rd rail electrics. Don't know if it can be used on DCC.

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Re: emu arcing

Postby THE CHIEF » Sat Sep 25, 2010 5:19 pm

I fitted the LED assembly under both ends of the EMU. Your right, it only works one way. all you need to do though is fit them opposite ways round and you get directional arcing. Any pictures of your thind rail? :)

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Re: emu arcing

Postby BROADTRAIN1979 » Sat Sep 25, 2010 5:22 pm

Hi poliss hmm will ponder on that one :wink:
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