Very simple question,

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Very simple question,

Postby Buelligan » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:23 pm

Hi all, sorry for such a basic question, but I’m about to tackle my first card kit, a metcalfe bridge. My question is, what is the best glue to use? And any other tips on construction for a complete beginner. I’ve had a quick search of the forum and couldn’t find any type of idiots guide to kit building, though to be fair I could use an idiots guide to searching and finding relevant topics too!

Thanks.

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Re: Very simple question,

Postby Bufferstop » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:02 pm

I always use Bostik clear for card kits PVA is just too slow for me. You have to apply it with care to keep it off visible surfaces and clamp joints until the have set. I have a box full of clips varying sizes of bulldog and alligator clips. I don't like using folded over tabs for gluing, I prefer to mount the walls on 2mm artists mounting board allowing a 2mm overlap on one side of a joint so that you get a crisp corner.
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Re: Very simple question,

Postby Buelligan » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:25 pm

Thanks, I’ll invest in some clips to hold it all. I seem to keep buying them and then losing them before I get to use them.

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Re: Very simple question,

Postby Bufferstop » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:06 pm

Ah you need to find where they are going to, mine were all congregating in the bottom draw of my wife's desk, along with a lifetime supply of freebe pens and markers.
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Re: Very simple question,

Postby luckymucklebackit » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:20 am

I use UHU, cheap at £1 a tube out of the pound shops, it gets tacky and grips much quicker than PVA. Only thing to watch is that it does tend to string but if you are careful this can be controlled.

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Re: Very simple question,

Postby SRman » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:53 am

I like PVA, but using only a thin smear on card kits means the bond is almost instant. Too much glue and it will take ages to dry and could allow movement while drying.

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Re: Very simple question,

Postby Lysander » Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:19 pm

Agree the above- a thin smear of PVA works very well. It dries quickly but not so quickly that small adjustments cannot be made. Obviously though, other adhesives will work. Incidentally, PVA dries clear.

You’ll also need a scalpel and a supply of sharp blades (or an equivalent sharp modelling knife) to remove pieces of the kit and clean up edges. A short steel rule would also be helpful.

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Re: Very simple question,

Postby flying scotsman123 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:28 pm

Another vote for PVA, might be a bit slower than bostik or other stringy glues, but it's harder to get in a mess with!
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Re: Very simple question,

Postby Mountain » Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:30 pm

I used to use UHU as I liked the smell. Smells like bananas. It could be made from bananas?

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Re: Very simple question,

Postby luckymucklebackit » Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:22 pm

No but sniff it enough and it will make you go bananas



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Re: Very simple question,

Postby BrightonMan » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:27 pm

I always use Roket card glue with a fine tip applicator. It sets very fast which can be an issue but it does create an excellent strong bond.

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Re: Very simple question,

Postby Buelligan » Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:01 pm

Thank for all the suggestions, I think I'll get a selection of those that have been recommended and see how I get on with them. Luckily the bridge is only for my sons layout, so not a huge issue if it ends up turning out rubbish.

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Re: Very simple question,

Postby TimberSurf » Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:50 pm

That's a bit of a sticky question! :lol:

I have the feeling/need to do a write up in my website guides!

Problem is that there are a few camps of opinion!

PVA or UHU/Bostick or Deluxe card rocket glue all work, it seems personal opinion is divided between them
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Re: Very simple question,

Postby TimberSurf » Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:51 pm

There is another camp that swears by sticky glue!
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Re: Very simple question,

Postby BuffyMcBuffer » Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:01 am

Construction tip from me would be dry fit pieces together before gluing to see any issues beforehand and score the back of thin card to help it bend round edges.

And additional useful tools would be a large cutting matt, metal ruler, clothes line pegs and coloured pens to go over the white edges of the paper at the joins.


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