Mountain's Competition Entry for 2018.

Have any questions or tips and advice on how to build those bits that don't come ready made.
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Re: Mountain's Competition Entry for 2018.

Postby PinkNosedPenguin » Thu May 31, 2018 6:31 pm

Looking good - do you have any 'rope' or 'chain' you could secure the barrel with?

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Re: Mountain's Competition Entry for 2018.

Postby Mountain » Thu May 31, 2018 8:15 pm

I was thinking along those lines. Watch this space!
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Re: Mountain's Competition Entry for 2018.

Postby Mountain » Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:36 am

Not sure how much more I can do as we are having a big clearout to relocate. However, now and then I have something moving forward. Here is a potential something...
For now I've marked out the tin with a waggon body design onto it. I've cut it out ready as keeping large rusty tins in my bedroom is not ideal. It was outside but is far too valuable to leave there. :D
I have other tins I need to do the same to. Will make more room and tidy things up a bit as well as providing material for more waggons!
The plans on the tin have been marked out to build waggons similar to the ones in the first picture, except these will have closed ends to them. The basic design is to build them in such a way as to reduce sharp edges. Also of note. I've rounded off any edges to the tin while in storage for safety reasons. I use both a pair of scissors and a tin snips to cut the tin. The snips for going through the thick edges. The scissors gives more control and a neater finish.
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Re: Mountain's Competition Entry for 2018.

Postby Mountain » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:50 pm

Some further progress with tin...
The first body is built up ready for a chassis. If it fits, I'm going to use a Triang cast metal bogie and Chang the wheels by sliding new wheels on the Triang axles and using slices of drinks straw as spacers. I use Romford 10.5mm wheels which I have a few left from buying them years ago. Other makes should also work if they have similar axle widths to fit the Triang axles.
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Re: Mountain's Competition Entry for 2018.

Postby TimberSurf » Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:02 pm

I assume no glue/solder involved in the box construction, how will you stick the chassis to it?

Also, why rusty tin? Is it so when painted the patina of the rust surface shows through?
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Re: Mountain's Competition Entry for 2018.

Postby Mountain » Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:12 pm

The rust will eventually show through paint to give a good look if i paint them. (The waggon below did have a rusty body which ive painted. If i expose the waggon to the harsh outdoors for a couple of weeks the rust will show through). I leave them rusty. The good thing is that if they do rust through, like the prototype, I just make a new body. The materials are free. Is just time taken.
There are small amounts of superglue used on this one which is not essential but I wanted to make sure the edges remained in place in case they leave sharp edges.
I will be using glue to glue this body on its chassis.
[Note: The waggon below was built before the competition started].
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Re: Mountain's Competition Entry for 2018.

Postby PinkNosedPenguin » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:08 pm

Hmmm so to model rust, you put your model outside and let it ... Erm ... Rust 8)
Ingenious :D

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Re: Mountain's Competition Entry for 2018.

Postby Mountain » Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:58 pm

You made me laugh then but the truth is that is what I do. I may as well make use of the weather living here. Silly to paint things to look like rust when they will do it by themselves for free!
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Re: Mountain's Competition Entry for 2018.

Postby Atso » Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:21 am

Realistic rust using... well rust! Those look great Mountain, I love the fold up construction of these.
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Re: Mountain's Competition Entry for 2018.

Postby Mountain » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:16 pm

Thanks Atso. I need to do more but things dont always pan out that way. I've been doing lots getting the grounds in a more presentable position where we no longer have the tractors cutting deck in use so it is back to the electric garden mower which itself needs repair.
I will update each time progress is made. :)
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Re: Mountain's Competition Entry for 2018.

Postby Longvallon » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:55 pm

Well done !
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Re: Mountain's Competition Entry for 2018.

Postby Mountain » Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:53 pm

Thanks Longvallon.

As my waggons will continue to be constructed beyond the end of the competition, rather then rush to get everyone finished, I am plodding along as I have the time and the mood to do more. Here are a few pictures of more progress.... I will be changing the wheels of the cast metal chassis (Ex. Triang bogies) in the same way I have done in the past, by sliding the new wheels off their axles and onto the Triang axles, not forgetting to add spacers made from a thin drinks straw. This way all runs well. Whilei normally would retain old wheels, my flange ways on my sharp corners maybe a little too much for Triang wheels to pass through safely as I have a long checkrail on a 180° curve at either end of the layout and one end has a diamond (Actually almost a square) crossing passing through. I may work on the Triang wheels in the future so they will work better and use them on newer waggons when I run out of wheels, as its a shame not to use something that is there for the use of... I dont like the concept of throwing away something useful and that someone has made before.
Next step is to remove the wheels and axles and start working on the chassis to make them fit. The couplings will be removed.
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Re: Mountain's Competition Entry for 2018.

Postby Pete » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:19 pm

I like these tubs, how will you fix them to the chassis?

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Re: Mountain's Competition Entry for 2018.

Postby Mountain » Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:55 pm

In the past I've used superglue which works fine except where the rust it was sticking to parted with the body. I just reglued them and they were fine. The first one I drilled holes (Tin is far easier to punch through then drill) and used wire. Wire works OK but is a bit too visible. When I rebuilt that waggon I used superglue.
I am thinking along the lines of either using hot glue or a more flexible glue as if I ever use the waggons outdoors or in a damp environment, the superglue may part. The wooden waggons should be OK as they are fully painted (Or will be for the few that are not quite finished) so the paint should protect the glue.
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Re: Mountain's Competition Entry for 2018.

Postby Mountain » Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:18 am

As times been passing fast, and knowing that the competition time is closing, I'm just making a pair of coupling loops to show how it is done.
I've previously made a jig to assist in making these, and it consists of nails hammered into a piece of wood with some of the nailheads removed to assist in removing the newly formed coupling loop from the jig.
Here are a few photos of forming a pair of coupling loops before I have breakfast.
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