Lysander's 2018 competition entry

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Re: Lysander's 2018 competition entry

Postby Dad-1 » Sat May 12, 2018 9:14 am

That is SO good !!
Certainly hides the pigs ear that you started with.
It just shows, give a craftsman something "like"
and it will come out as a real jewel.

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Re: Lysander's 2018 competition entry

Postby Lysander » Sun May 13, 2018 3:28 pm

Thank you Geoff - much appreciated.

I won't post a blow-by-blow of the second build as the methods used and problems encountered will probably be pretty much the same as before.

However, just to prove that there is a second build - and I'm not posting a coach that I finished ages ago! - here's a shot of one of the sides lined and lettered and now awaiting varnish before the underframe is painted matt black. It will not be quite as reflective once under a coat of Dullcote although a final thin brush-painted application of Klear will enhance the richness of the colour that tends to be muted through varnishing.

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Re: Lysander's 2018 competition entry

Postby Lysander » Fri May 18, 2018 7:59 pm

Some progress with coach two: glazing will follow and the brass work picked out before the body is masked up for the under frame and chassis to be sprayed matt black. Once done, the unattached side will be held in place with rubber bands to test the wheel sets for squareness and smooth running.Some adjustment will be needed, it never really works first time.

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The roof has been primed and now awaits detailing. Interior partitions need cutting and painting also. The third coach has now been dismantled, stripped and primed. I'll need to buy some more paint to complete it however.

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Re: Lysander's 2018 competition entry

Postby Lysander » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:23 pm

Second and final coach completed: the Brake Third. There is one further coach to complete, the All-Third, but that will have to wait another day: I want something a little less trying next!

The Brake Third was much more difficult than I had anticipated as the two sides were not wholly symmetrical. This created difficulties in fitting both the wheel-sets and the roof. Getting everything square and the wheels level took a long time. It also runs grumpily through slips and some pointwork but that, I think, is a back-to-back issue. It's an attractive vehicle though and pairs well with the Passenger Brake Van.

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And that's me done....

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Re: Lysander's 2018 competition entry

Postby Mountain » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:12 pm

That's fantastic Lysanda.
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Re: Lysander's 2018 competition entry

Postby Lysander » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:52 pm

The completed project:

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Re: Lysander's 2018 competition entry

Postby luckymucklebackit » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:27 pm

Beautiful Job Lysander, really nice coaches!







(when are you going to weather them :twisted: )

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Re: Lysander's 2018 competition entry

Postby Lysander » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:00 pm

Thanks for the comments all.

Weather them? Maybe just the running boards one day....

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Re: Lysander's 2018 competition entry

Postby Bigglesof266 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:29 pm

Remarkable transformation Tony. Regardless, the pleasure's in the doing I'd say.

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Re: Lysander's 2018 competition entry

Postby Pete » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:03 am

Tony

They look absolutely stunning, such depth to the colour.

Would it be possible to see a bit more of the backdrop, it also looks really interesting, is it something you've painted yourself?

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Re: Lysander's 2018 competition entry

Postby Mountain » Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:00 pm

I know those backscenes. They are Peco backscenes. I used Brian Sheriff for my last layout which is another commonly used back scene from the past.
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Re: Lysander's 2018 competition entry

Postby Lysander » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:30 am

Pete wrote:Tony

They look absolutely stunning, such depth to the colour.

Would it be possible to see a bit more of the backdrop, it also looks really interesting, is it something you've painted yourself?

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It's a mixture of backscenes Pete, put up quite a long time ago now. I will try to video the full length of it when I'm next at the club.

Oh, and thanks for the comments. The richness of colour is a result of two light applications of 'Klear' over the semi-matt varnish sprayed on to protect the first paint coat and the lining and numbering. The varnish, although very thin, does tend to take some of the richness out of the colour: 'Klear' puts it all back in spades.

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Re: Lysander's 2018 competition entry

Postby Dad-1 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:28 pm

Hi Tony,

As everyone has noted a superb finish, not just the paint, but
the whole job.
How do they run ? Not that they need to, as Siding Queens they'd
probably get even more attention by having time to closely examine
the craftsmanship.

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Re: Lysander's 2018 competition entry

Postby Lysander » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:53 pm

Thanks Geoff.

How do they run? The PLV runs quite well and keeps to the track through points and slips as long as it is moving at a sensible speed. As an old coach, by the mid-40s, it would not have spent much time behind an express so branch/suburban speeds would be prototypical.

The Brake Third is more of a problem. On level track, and with straight or reasonable curve running, she's fine. Some points she does not like though and slips are a definite no no. I'm pretty sure that it's just a back-to-back issue and, in due course, I'll attend to it. For the time being, I just like looking at them! But, it'll be fixed [in time for your 2019 show!!]. If it isn't, the wheels will be cut out and replaced with, probably, etched w-irons fitted inside the castings.

Using the original wheel sets and cast w-iron/axle box arrangements is always fraught with these old kits. I've never not had one run quite well eventually but, sooner-or-later, I'll run into the sand with one .

In the meantime, remember this [not part of this competition]?

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It nearly flew through the window several times before it was finished. It was a GWR Tri-Compo and several ran on the Cambrian. They also featured as rather charming camping coaches.

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Re: Lysander's 2018 competition entry

Postby Mountain » Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:09 pm

If you dont mind too much about the finer details, you could turn or grind the flanges off the centre wheels?
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