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painting

Postby ray835 » Mon May 01, 2017 5:20 pm

do people prefer to paint parts of a plastic kit while still on sprues before assembly....

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Re: painting

Postby Bufferstop » Mon May 01, 2017 6:39 pm

In many kits some parts can only be painted before assembly so they are best done on the sprue. If the area of the model includes a joint it's better to put at least the final coat on after the join is made. Some people advocate applying a spray of undercoat before separating the parts. If you do this you either have to clean the paint off the edges to be glued or identify which bits take glue and need masking.
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Re: painting

Postby Jim S-W » Mon May 01, 2017 8:21 pm

ray835 wrote:do people prefer to paint parts of a plastic kit while still on sprues before assembly....


Nope. I never do that.

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Re: painting

Postby End2end » Mon May 01, 2017 9:28 pm

I do both.
But please do be advised of one of my mistakes...
I sprayed a whole building sprue with grey undercoat then realised that the origintal colour of the sprue (brown) was actually a better base colour for some parts on the sprue.... mainly the wood effect parts. :roll: Stupid me. I think it was the ratio 540 locomotive servicing depot kit. I've made A LOT of buildings. :lol:
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Re: painting

Postby Mountain » Wed May 03, 2017 9:43 am

I've built quite a few kits and not thought about painting on the sprues! No idea why. I guess it depends what the kit is as the bonding requires the parts to be unpainted or it will be bonded to a layer of paint and not to the plastic. More recently I've been building cast resin kits and these don't often have spruces.
Generally I paint any insides first and part assemble, and paint the outsides, and then put in windows etc and later put the roof on and paint it and touch up any bits I've missed.
Having said that, I have a Smallbrook Studio 0-16.5 coach kit I've painted the outside first before assembly.... I guess I was in a painting mood while I had the colour out and was doing somethjng else the same colour! Coach sides and ends are still sitting there waiting further building! I get building spurts where I go mad building, and then I take a rest and they gather dust until the next building spurt comes! :mrgreen:
I recommend painting insides first before assembly and then assemble but without the roof. Then paint outsides and add any windows after then paint is dry. Then glue together the roof and paint.
Small and very small items it does make sense to paint on the spruce.

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Re: painting

Postby Bufferstop » Wed May 03, 2017 1:17 pm

Giving the whole thing a coat of primer can be a time saver in that if well chosen it can be the main colour for any visible interior. It's also relatively easy to remove the primer from the surfaces to be glued. If the construction permits it the outside final colours are best applied before the glazing is put in. Then any internal spot colours before the roof goes on, would apply to both buildings and rolling stock. There's always going to be the awkward kit that needs all internal painting to be done before assembly as it's only the roof that holds the whole thing together, so quite a lot of painting needs to be done prior to assembly.
The Airfix/Dapol railcar kit is one, I ended up doing the whole interior before assembly, and the only way to extract the piece of card used to keep the sliding doors in place was through the hole cut in the floor to accommodate the motor I was fitting.
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Re: painting

Postby ray835 » Sun May 07, 2017 8:55 pm

just won a hornby R300 LMS pug on flea bay for £9.60 :) just the right price for practicing on for weathering will also add hand rails to the cab and along the tank as the more detailed expensive ones have

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Re: painting

Postby Mountain » Tue May 09, 2017 12:35 am

A tip I learned. When I started to brush paint when in my teens and right until about a year or two ago, I'd look for the smallest thinnest brush, as one does have fine areas where one wants to be accurate. However I saw a tip. The writer said that if one was painting large flat areas one needed a larger brush because one is less likely to see the brush strokes. Now it is obvious now I look back on it, but it didn't occur to me before other then the speed of using a larger brush on a larger area.
So to paint a diesel like a class 47, paint the sides (Assuming most of it is a single colour e.g. B.R. blue) with a large brush but miss out the edges and the detail areas, and then paint the small detailed areas and the edges with your small brush.
I know this is self explanatory and most of you are way beyond such simplicity as I'm describing but this may help many who may not have tried brush painting their models.
Another thing to mention. Don't be too disappointed if your paint goes too far into another colour you are painting as usually any mistakes can be corrected later. Some of my models had a few corrections between two colours until I was happy with them!

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Re: painting

Postby ray835 » Wed May 10, 2017 11:32 pm

ray835 wrote:just won a hornby R300 LMS pug on flea bay for £9.60 :) just the right price for practicing on for weathering will also add hand rails to the cab and along the tank as the more detailed expensive ones have
oooooops put this on wrong thread :oops:


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