Chris (Emettman)'s February 2015 competition thread.

Have any questions or tips and advice on how to build those bits that don't come ready made.
User avatar
Emettman
Posts: 2170
Joined: Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:43 pm
Location: Cornwall UK
Contact:

Chris (Emettman)'s February 2015 competition thread.

Postby Emettman » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:00 pm

Having checked on eligibility, I can announce that my entry for the February 2015 competition is...

The Six Million Dollar Loco: we can rebuild. We have the technology.

Image

The result of an unfortunate fire several years ago.
There is at least a usable chassis under there. I think.

Chris
"It's his madness that keeps him sane."

Dad-1
Posts: 5300
Joined: Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:05 pm
Location: Dorset - A mile from West Bay.

Re: Chris (Emettman)'s February 2015 competition thread.

Postby Dad-1 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:03 pm

Chris,

Didn't your mum tell you NOT to play with matches ?

Geoff T.
Remember ... I know nothing about railways.
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=32187 and Another on viewtopic.php?f=22&t=28436&start=60&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

nickbrad
Posts: 827
Joined: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:53 am
Location: Lincoln, UK

Re: Chris (Emettman)'s February 2015 competition thread.

Postby nickbrad » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:26 pm

Is that a motor with wooden cladding I spy?

User avatar
Emettman
Posts: 2170
Joined: Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:43 pm
Location: Cornwall UK
Contact:

Re: Chris (Emettman)'s February 2015 competition thread.

Postby Emettman » Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:05 pm

There was wooden cladding, but the motor was vertical, in the firebox.

Pre-fire, on the Early Morning Milk Train:

Image

Of the green 4-2-0 in the background there is probably not enough to restore, but it might be refurbished into a sad pile of abandonment should I ever get as far as anew Emett layout.
"It's his madness that keeps him sane."

Dad-1
Posts: 5300
Joined: Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:05 pm
Location: Dorset - A mile from West Bay.

Re: Chris (Emettman)'s February 2015 competition thread.

Postby Dad-1 » Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:51 pm

I do wonder if this is possible ?
More like a scratch build using some spare item if anything worth salvaging can be found.

Geoff T.
Remember ... I know nothing about railways.
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=32187 and Another on viewtopic.php?f=22&t=28436&start=60&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

User avatar
Emettman
Posts: 2170
Joined: Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:43 pm
Location: Cornwall UK
Contact:

Re: Chris (Emettman)'s February 2015 competition thread.

Postby Emettman » Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:54 pm

Well, I did have a thought about getting a Dapol pug kit, and re-uniting the chassis with its earliest style of body, but it would be a major struggle to get the necessary works inside.

Some other little pug shunter would be more feasible, assembled like Frankenstein's monster out of scrap-box parts.
"Igor, go fetch me a pair of outside cylinders..."

I could rebuild it as an Emett, to no scale at all, (around 1:28). I've not done an Emett for years, and the corresponding layout has been retired and disassembled. Hmm. Have I still got a spare lace bobbin?

A tiny 0-16.5? I have the makings for that, I think. But it would be on its own.

Choices, choices.
Chris.
"It's his madness that keeps him sane."

User avatar
glencairn
Posts: 2308
Joined: Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:09 pm
Location: Both sides of the Border

Re: Chris (Emettman)'s February 2015 competition thread.

Postby glencairn » Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:29 am

Have you started already? The number 5 looks good :D

Good luck Chris

Glencairn
To the world you are someone. To someone you are their world.

User avatar
Emettman
Posts: 2170
Joined: Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:43 pm
Location: Cornwall UK
Contact:

Re: Chris (Emettman)'s February 2015 competition thread.

Postby Emettman » Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:19 am

Dad-1 wrote:Chris,

Didn't your mum tell you NOT to play with matches ?

Geoff T.


A concatenation of events, as usual. Not one simple factor or error.
"Luck deserts tired men".

Chris
"It's his madness that keeps him sane."

User avatar
Emettman
Posts: 2170
Joined: Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:43 pm
Location: Cornwall UK
Contact:

Re: Chris (Emettman)'s February 2015 competition thread.

Postby Emettman » Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:39 am

glencairn wrote:Have you started already? The number 5 looks good :D

Good luck Chris

Glencairn


I've got rid of the burned bits.
Hang on, there was supposed to be something left over, wasn't there?

I doubt I'll be able to reproduce the lining: that was old technology 18 years ago.

Chris
"It's his madness that keeps him sane."

User avatar
glencairn
Posts: 2308
Joined: Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:09 pm
Location: Both sides of the Border

Re: Chris (Emettman)'s February 2015 competition thread.

Postby glencairn » Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:04 pm

Emettman wrote:
glencairn wrote:Have you started already? The number 5 looks good :D

Good luck Chris

Glencairn


I've got rid of the burned bits.
Hang on, there was supposed to be something left over, wasn't there?

I doubt I'll be able to reproduce the lining: that was old technology 18 years ago.

Chris


We have the technology! :lol:

Glencairn
To the world you are someone. To someone you are their world.

User avatar
Emettman
Posts: 2170
Joined: Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:43 pm
Location: Cornwall UK
Contact:

Re: Chris (Emettman)'s February 2015 competition thread.

Postby Emettman » Tue Jan 27, 2015 11:53 pm

I'm not sure we do have the technology (anymore)!
There are one or two items from my childhood I would love to have again, but they have proven too ephemeral. In some case even to have left behind traces on websites dedicated to nostalgia from the 60's and 70's.

Meanwhile, having removed all that wasn't burnt to ruination:

Image

The chassis rolls, the driving axle gearwheel is intact, and the original worm gear has had a large horizontal gearwheel attached which will take a small pinion gear from a small high-revving motor. Due to the tiny wheels I don't need as much reduction as usual; to end up with a suitable shunting speed.

I've been thinking and playing around with that, too. What might be wanted for a real minimum space inglenook will at least *look* too slow on a goods yard with more space. There's also very much something about real and apparent scale coming in in here: a loco going well fast enough were you a person on its scale, and by calculations, can seem snail-like when the observer is 76 times as large.

I haven't got the locos to check this, but does a steam express loco doing the right wheel revs for say 70mph look like it's doing 70.. , or are the models often actually set to speeding so as to "look right"?
"It's his madness that keeps him sane."

nickbrad
Posts: 827
Joined: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:53 am
Location: Lincoln, UK

Re: Chris (Emettman)'s February 2015 competition thread.

Postby nickbrad » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:17 am

I usually find that with most layouts I see, that the locos are going too fast rather than too slow. Maybe it's because I've gotten used to thinking about what the scale speed should be or maybe some guys just like speeding locos.

I am talking about in the flesh though, on videos, speed always seems to be distorted by camera angle, distance etc

User avatar
glencairn
Posts: 2308
Joined: Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:09 pm
Location: Both sides of the Border

Re: Chris (Emettman)'s February 2015 competition thread.

Postby glencairn » Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:35 am

I find, as my locomotives are 'getting on a bit', pulling a few coaches slows them down. Heading towards the shed light engine at a 'ton plus' scares the pants of the 'doddery old controller' :D

Glencairn
To the world you are someone. To someone you are their world.

User avatar
Emettman
Posts: 2170
Joined: Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:43 pm
Location: Cornwall UK
Contact:

Re: Chris (Emettman)'s February 2015 competition thread.

Postby Emettman » Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:24 pm

Image

Motor mounted, after half-a dozen attempts to find the right gear ratio that also performed acceptably quietly.

The balsa will be reinforced and then tidied up.

I have a couple of donor bodies in mind.
(I just have to dig them up.)

Chris
"It's his madness that keeps him sane."

User avatar
skyblue
Posts: 1745
Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:17 am

Re: Chris (Emettman)'s February 2015 competition thread.

Postby skyblue » Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:08 am

This is certainly an impressive restoration. I am surprised that so much of it has survived - for example it's amazing that the brake shoes are still the right shape!


Return to “Scratch and Kit building”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 1 guest