having a bash at remodeling

Have any questions or tips and advice on how to build those bits that don't come ready made.
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having a bash at remodeling

Postby sleeper » Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:35 pm

After reading about some of the amazing projects featured on this forum I have decided to show my punitive efforts. I acquired this body in a batch of bodies I bought cheap on E-bay.
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I had to obtain a suitable chassis, one that was short enough to fit inside this body which originaly ran on an 0-4-0 Lima chassis, on looking through the Hornby service sheets I settled on an X518, which with the extensions removed just fitted in. The wheels were miles too large and were swapped for ones from an 0-6-0. At this stage I'll just add that the first x518 chassis was well worn and the axles slopped about too much so an alternative one was obtained but when I received it I found it was from a tender-drive and had no tappings underneath for the collector plate screws and so I had to mark and drill a hole for the front screw, having no means of tapping the hole I managed to create a thread with a screw from a spares pack, I made a bracket from a drawbar and secured the other end of the collector with this, not ideal but it's worked
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this is the chassis with smaller wheels attached
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I then set about cutting the body in line with the picture of 30065 that I am working from,[ which is preserved and runs on the Kent and East Sussex line] decals were removed, rivets and unwanted detail filed out, I fabricated some cylinders, made the body attachment plate from 1mm plasticard, cut down the existing body attachment, fitted the cylinders, front plate [I'm not sure what it's for but it's in the photo of 30065] and buffer beam.
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Re: having a bash at remodeling

Postby sleeper » Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:42 pm

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the cylinders made from laminated plasticard and shaped
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Re: having a bash at remodeling

Postby sleeper » Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:13 pm

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this is the body with all the modifications ready for priming
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I'm not sure if I should add the detail now or after priming

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Re: having a bash at remodeling

Postby sleeper » Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:22 pm

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the body mounted temporarily on the chassis to give some idea of what it will look like, it's lookin' good
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Re: having a bash at remodeling

Postby sleeper » Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:43 pm

I'm getting used to re-sizing the images in microsoft paint,[ another inflexible dynasaur] so they fit into this page, it's a real pain in the butt though,
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the first coat, I then did the filling and rubbing down
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This made me realize how bad my finishing was, some filling and rubbing down required.

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Re: having a bash at remodeling

Postby sleeper » Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:59 pm

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fully primed
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And here is the body with the finished coat of primer ready for the paint job, the photo's not very clear but that makes my painting look better, fingers crossed that it goes well. I tried the chassis out on a section of track and guess what, it ran! well pleased with that! I just have to make up a brush connector from some brass strip and solder that to the feed wire and fit another TV suppressor as the one fitted to the pick-up wire doesn't pass current.
So that's all for now until the painting is complete

see ya later,

Roly

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Re: having a bash at remodeling

Postby Biscuits » Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:39 pm

Looking good so far!

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Re: having a bash at remodeling

Postby GeraldH » Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:05 am

Great imaginative piece of work. I'm going to do something similar with a Hornby 0-4-0 International Tank at some point.
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Re: having a bash at remodeling

Postby sleeper » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:35 pm

Hi everyone,
Thanks very much for those kind words of encouragement.

Well I finally summoned up the courage to start the paint job, I used Humbrol acrylic coal black No 85 paint and found it to be really nice to apply, with strong pigment so that it covers extremely well and I found I only used a surprisingly small amount. Here's the results.
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I'm going to make this model based on 30065 a preserved loco on the Kent and East Sussex railway.
I'm waiting for the decals to arrive, but as I ordered them with some pots of paint they can't come by airmail only overland [snailmail] so I have to wait.
I bought some bits from a guy on E-Bid who lives in the same department as me here in France, it took 6 DAYS to get here, snailmail? you know why French snailmail is so slow? Cos the french ate all the snails!
more photos later when I've done a bit more to it
regards Roly
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Re: having a bash at remodeling

Postby mattmay05 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:49 pm

Coming along nicely, good bit of modifying and remodelling.

30064 USA tank on the Bluebell, 30065 i think is on the Kent and East Sussex railway. currently in the SR bullied livery.

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Re: having a bash at remodeling

Postby sleeper » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:07 pm

Yeah you're right Matt, funny I had a feeling when I posted that I might have got it wrong

Other posts edited to correct my mistake :oops:
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Re: having a bash at remodeling

Postby sleeper » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:54 pm

Hi everyone, thanks for the kind words of support.
I've done a bit more to it. I applied a thin coat of humbrol satin cote just to protect the paint while I added the detail, with hindsight I should have added the detail before I did the painting but you live and learn.
The grab-rails were fashioned from galvanized wire which here in France is threaded through the flexible plastic conduit used for electrical wiring in houses, I have bags of this left over from the house renovation. It's about the same gauge as that used for paper-clips, this was painted black and when dry scraped back to give a worn appearance.
The brass buffers came from Abigails, the brass ladder I bought in a model shop in Trowbridge Wilts, The cab steps were formed by cutting two pieces of this ladder to equal length and cutting out the side rails on one side and soldering them together again to form virtually the same thing but twice the width. The front steps below the buffer bar are the originals removed from the back. The bell from the original was filed down to reduce the height and diameter, cross drilled out to 2mm and a length of copper lighting wire inserted and fixed with superglue. [I've used superglue throughout this project as it's fast curing and guaranteed to stick]. this assembly was attached to the side of the boiler and not knowing what it represented and I was unable to establish where it went to from the photos, it was simply entered back into the body.
Any comments on what you think this pipe may be for?
Once the detail had been hand painted it was time for the decals, as this is modeled on 30065 on the Kent and East Sussex Railway [ thanks Matt] it is pretty plain with no lining, which is a godsend as I didn't fancy my chances of pulling that off successfully at this stage, that area needs a lot of practice in the future.
I used HMRS pressfix decals and I was surprised how easy it was [in theory] with my dodgy eyesight and shaky hands it wasn't perfect but then the whole model has glaring faults, the buffer bar is crooked the buffers too, the body sits too high on the chassis, these locos did sit rather high on their frame but on reflection I wish I'd filled in the cut-away section at the base of the tanks, that would have made the body look lower.
I'm waiting for some handrail and knobs to come from Markits for the 3 handrails on the boiler.
So, here's some photos of it to date:-
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where did all that dust come from?
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a big mark across the back where I didn't take enough care removing the original handrail detail, and that huge screw!!!! urrrrrrrgh
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I marked out the line for the bottom of the decals according to the instructions [8.5mm up from the sole plate], but omitted to take into consideration the height of the lettering hence the number 65 is lower than the 'southern' cos it would have clashed with the window frame
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Re: having a bash at remodeling

Postby GeraldH » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:07 pm

Well done... just the ticket :)
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Re: having a bash at remodeling

Postby sleeper » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:17 pm

Here's some pics of the prototypes :-

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This is the prototype loco I copied
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This loco is also on the K&ESR, you can see how high the body is above the wheels
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Re: having a bash at remodeling

Postby OliverSR » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:15 pm

I think you have made a nice model there. It really captures the look of the prototype.
I agree with you when it comes to trying to do simpler liveries as it is easier.
I look forward to seeing the final touches and any future projects you do.
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