What glue for making trees?

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minipix
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What glue for making trees?

Postby minipix » Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:05 am

I recently took a few cuttings from a box bush, because the little twigs looked remarkably like little trees, and I thought I could use them on my layout. But I'm having trouble getting clump material to stick.

My first attempt was using PVA glue, but it was just too liquid and wouldn't stay on the branches or hold the clump material in place.

My second attempt was using hair spray. I remembered reading that people used cheap hair spray for this, so I got some from Tesco. That had no effect whatsoever, no stickiness at all. Do people actually use hair spray? Or did I remember that wrong?

My third attempt was using a spray glue. After hunting around in the craft cupboard I came across an old can of something called "Stick & Stay", which claims to be a "permanent repositional adhesive". I gave it a go. I came out thick and gloopy, and the clump material stuck to it brilliantly! Instant trees! Woohoo! But the following morning when I came to inspect them, quite a lot of the clump material had dropped off. The branches still felt slightly tacky, but clearly the glue hadn't made a good permanent bond. I'm fine with a few bare areas here and there (I'd claim realism), but my worry is that I'll be constantly picking up bits off my layout.

Below are some photos - two before, and one after.

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So what glues do other people use?
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Re: What glue for making trees?

Postby flying scotsman123 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:11 am

Hairspray works well when you're using smaller particles, but as you've found out it's not strong enough for big clumps. I think when I used to use clump foliage for trees I used "stringy glue" something like bostik or equivalent. You have to be careful not to get in a mess with it, but that seemed to do the job.
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Re: What glue for making trees?

Postby luckymucklebackit » Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:40 am

Agree with the above, try using the fine material that you can buy for hanging baskets and spray that stuff with hairspray, then add the clump material but finely crumbed. I used this method with Hydrangea flowers as the basis - method here https://www.newrailwaymodellers.co.uk/Forums/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=33932&start=240#p631470

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Re: What glue for making trees?

Postby lenht1951 » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:12 pm

Have a look here, if I can do it anyone can https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EccnAonRHgw&t=282s

I was going to post a couple of mine but have forgotten how to upload pictures

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Re: What glue for making trees?

Postby gppsoftware » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:55 am

I have used 'rubber' based glues like Evostick and its Bostick and 'Tarzan' equivalents. All worked well.

Just a tip with trees: when you look at them, your can usually see a lot of light through them so don't pile the foliage onto a model tree thickly.


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