Woodland Scenics ground covers + Scenic Cement

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Woodland Scenics ground covers + Scenic Cement

Postby muggins » Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:13 pm

Is it me or what? I really don't get on with Woodland Scenics Scenic Cement. It won't spray out of an atomiser, and if I use a Windowlene-type sprayer bottle thingy, it comes out far too blobby and hit and miss. Watching the dude on the WS videos using their own spray bottle, that seems to be OK on a diorama where you don't mind the stuff going everywhere (and wasting a lot of it), but what about when you're trying to stick/seal ground cover in small areas/tight corners, up against track and whatnot?

I think I can get away with using the Scenic Cement (or 30% PVA in water, which I think is probably the same thing) with a brush or a dropper for actually sticking the stuff down, but what do folk who know what they're doing do to "seal" over the finished areas to make sure it all hangs together when approached by a vacuum cleaner?

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Re: Woodland Scenics ground covers + Scenic Cement

Postby flying scotsman123 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:28 pm

A good squirt of hairspray usually does the trick, the cheaper and stickier the better.
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Re: Woodland Scenics ground covers + Scenic Cement

Postby TimberSurf » Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:41 pm

MOD PODGE MATTE does everything! Varnish, glue and sealant, water dilutable, easy clean, dries quick and INVISIBLE!
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Re: Woodland Scenics ground covers + Scenic Cement

Postby b308 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:05 pm

Can't say I've had any problems with it, I'm not sure exactly what it's made from but I don't think it just contains PVA and water as I've tried that combination and I've found the WS stuff works far better...

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Re: Woodland Scenics ground covers + Scenic Cement

Postby End2end » Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:23 pm

flying scotsman123 wrote:A good squirt of hairspray usually does the trick, the cheaper and stickier the better.

Does hairspray stay flammable when dry?
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Re: Woodland Scenics ground covers + Scenic Cement

Postby flying scotsman123 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:51 pm

End2end wrote:
flying scotsman123 wrote:A good squirt of hairspray usually does the trick, the cheaper and stickier the better.

Does hairspray stay flammable when dry?
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Not sure, I don't tend to go round areas I've grassed with a lighter to check! :lol:
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Re: Woodland Scenics ground covers + Scenic Cement

Postby Bufferstop » Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:57 pm

Spray some on some rag, let it dry then take it outside and try to set it alight. If it flares up, let us know. Although I've never smoked plenty of my twenty something mates did, in close proximity to their girlfriend's sprayed to death beehive hairdoos and I can't remember any case of conflagration.
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Re: Woodland Scenics ground covers + Scenic Cement

Postby muggins » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:14 am

TimberSurf wrote:MOD PODGE MATTE does everything! Varnish, glue and sealant, water dilutable, easy clean, dries quick and INVISIBLE!


Can you spray it - atomiser or Windolene bottle type sprayer?

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Re: Woodland Scenics ground covers + Scenic Cement

Postby luckymucklebackit » Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:00 am

End2end wrote:
flying scotsman123 wrote:A good squirt of hairspray usually does the trick, the cheaper and stickier the better.

Does hairspray stay flammable when dry?
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The propellant is either propane, butane, isobutane, or related volatile hydrocarbons, definitely flammable but that should evaporates almost instantly, not sure about the lacquer, I have seen clips of women who have heavily applied hairspray getting too close to a flame and catching fire. If you are of a nervous disposition and read the Wikipedia page I doubt if you would ever use it again. Personally - meh! there are plenty of other nasty substances used in building layouts.

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Re: Woodland Scenics ground covers + Scenic Cement

Postby TimberSurf » Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:39 pm

muggins wrote:
TimberSurf wrote:MOD PODGE MATTE does everything! Varnish, glue and sealant, water dilutable, easy clean, dries quick and INVISIBLE!


Can you spray it - atomiser or Windolene bottle type sprayer?


Absolutely! I have used it in my airbrush!
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Re: Woodland Scenics ground covers + Scenic Cement

Postby muggins » Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:10 am

Ta very much!

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Re: Woodland Scenics ground covers + Scenic Cement

Postby lenht1951 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:51 pm

TimberSurf wrote:MOD PODGE MATTE does everything! Varnish, glue and sealant, water dilutable, easy clean, dries quick and INVISIBLE!

Which one the blue container or the yellow container.
Thanks in advance :)

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Re: Woodland Scenics ground covers + Scenic Cement

Postby TimberSurf » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:49 am

lenht1951 wrote:Which one the blue container or the yellow container.
Thanks in advance :)


The yellow one, Mod Podge Matte for scenery

The blue one, Mod Podge Paper is specifically for paper (less likely to sun fade yellow over time)


I use PVA (neat) to stick static grass and general glue duty (cuz it's cheaper), but use Mod Podge as glue for paper and as a second layer glue for static grass and for sealing scenery and paper
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Re: Woodland Scenics ground covers + Scenic Cement

Postby lenht1951 » Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:54 pm

Cheers Timbersurf :wink:


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