Coal drop

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Coal drop

Postby LMSlover » Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:56 pm

Hi, new to the railway modelling scene and having settled on attempting to create a LMS layout and having got a few of the Skaledale buildings, I'm wondering how they should be placed to make it look as real as possible. The one I'm having most trouble with is the coal drop (the hornby one that comes in four or five parts) Do I need to lay track up the ramps? And where would it be positioned on the layout?

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Re: Coal drop

Postby End2end » Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:46 pm

A picture tells a 1000 words.
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And some text I found on the net to go with it.

"The coal drop is made up from five separately purchased parts. These are the shed base (R8735), the coal drop itself including steps and ramp (R8722), the overshoot and steps (R8736), ramp 1 (R8733) and ramp 2 (R8734). Beyond the lower ramp, embankment will be required.
It makes up into possibly the largest single structure in the Skaledale range. R8722 comes with a raised timber floored platform which goes inside the building to provide access height for unloading and barrowing coal. It also has a short flight of steps to use if the building is without its base. However, without the base the three chutes would not be high enough to be of any use. The only thing missing is the barrows for transporting the coal but they might have pushed the cost over the top."

As we can see in the picture, there is the lower coaling track as well as a higher track for unloading and barrowing coal.
I would imagine it would be in a siding of some sorts although the more experienced modellers here would be able to give a more exacting prototype location.
I.E. next to a water tower, at a service depot etc.
Hope it helps
Thanks
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Re: Coal drop

Postby stuartp » Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:56 pm

If you mean this one http://www.mremag.com/news/article/skal ... drop/11166 then it goes next to your engine shed. Track goes up the ramps, the shed pilot (shunting loco) shoves coal wagons up it a couple at a time, labourers unload it and transfer it to small tubs, then the tubs are run out through the erm... porch things on the side and into the tender of a locomotive. They were generally found at large-ish engine sheds as they took up a lot of space, which could be a problem or an excuse to build a big shed depending on how you look at it. At the very largest sheds they were replaced by massive ferro-concrete towers from the 1930s onwards.

Here's a real one, there were many variations on the basic theme: http://www.warwickshirerailways.com/lms/mrb480.htm

Here's the Northern Division's rather less elegant take on the theme: http://www.flickr.com/photos/31767778@N06/2971818849

If you live anywhere within reach of Didcot there's a real one there, although built by a lesser railway.
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Re: Coal drop

Postby LMSlover » Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:26 pm

Thanks, that's helped a lot. :D

How do I fix it to the baseboard? Just with glue or is there a better way?

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Re: Coal drop

Postby stuartp » Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:26 am

Personally I wouldn't glue it down. I'd build up the ground level around it slightly, balsa or card about 2mm thick will do, to leave a socket or footprint for the building then whatever you're using for scenic ground cover over the top of the card up to the building. That way if you need to move it you won't damage it, and it will go back in the right place every time.
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Re: Coal drop

Postby Artificer » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:22 pm

Appreciate this was posted sometime ago by LMSlover , but did you ever get this project finished? if so would like to see some pictures of the Hornby coal drop on your layout


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