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road surface

Postby londonboi1985 » Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:35 pm

Hi all what's the best material to use to make a rroad surface and ppavement is itt best just to uuuse paint???? Sorrry if spelling is bad I'm using my blackberry
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Jim S-W
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Re: road surface

Postby Jim S-W » Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:42 pm

Hi

I use Suede texture paint as a base and work on top of that with other colours - usually a grey with a light spray of black for tarmac followed by washes.

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For concrete I use a base of PVA with lines drawn through it while its still tacky (I use a nit comb for this)

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This is then has the plasticote suede paint sprayed over it.

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For road markings I use Pentel Liquid chalk markers (see [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PENTEL-LIQUID-CHALK-MARKER-PEN-YELLOW-THICK-NIB_W0QQitemZ200337807785QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_BOI_Office_Office_Supplies_Stationery_ET?hash=item200337807785&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1688%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50)"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PENTEL-LIQUID-CHALK-...3A1%7C294%3A50)[/url] these are also great for the white lines on platform edges.

Close up of the roads - pic Courtesy of © Tim Maddocks

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Finally dont forget you need iron work - My own design for these

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Re: road surface

Postby b308 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:47 am

B****y h**l, Jim, that looks fantastic!

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Re: road surface

Postby londonboi1985 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:48 am

that is fantastic!!!!!

what do you use for the kerbs and cobblestones
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Re: road surface

Postby amsie » Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:05 pm

I can tell you that i've tried various methods for tarmac/road surfaces, and nothing has come close to Jims method. You can get the suede paint from Ebay too.

Jim, are the manhole covers for sale on your website??

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Re: road surface

Postby Jim S-W » Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:41 pm

londonboi1985 wrote:that is fantastic!!!!!

what do you use for the kerbs and cobblestones


In this case the kerbstones were 80 thou x 80 thou microstrip cut into scale 3ft lengths and applied individually. The paving is all hand scribed.

Not all kerbstones are the same though, these are my representations of the ones on Brunel Street.

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The iron work would be available from me if I had any left. If 3 or more people want some I can order some more.

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Re: road surface

Postby Bufferstop » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:07 pm

Jim - It might be worth pointing out for those not familiar with Birmingham that even in the 70s Birmingham Corp was still specifying machine cut stone blocks for kerbs in city centre streets rather than precast concrete ones. They even put back cut stone paving slabs after pavements had been opened up for cable work and lord help any contractor who thought he could get away with "flags-art"(ificial).
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Re: road surface

Postby Finbin » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:05 pm

We love the road markings.
We are just getting to the stage of doing our own. Could you give us some more information of what type of "Pentel Liquid chalk markers" as the link does not work.

What size nib did you use?

Did you seal it with anything?

Did you draw the lines freehand or did you use a rule?

Steve(old one) & William (young one)

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Re: road surface

Postby buz » Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:30 am

Hi
Wow that makes my just three shades of grey paint sort of brushed together roads look very bad indeed.
Never heard of sued paint I take it it has a slight texture to it.
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Re: road surface

Postby Jim S-W » Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:00 pm

Finbin wrote:We love the road markings.
We are just getting to the stage of doing our own. Could you give us some more information of what type of "Pentel Liquid chalk markers" as the link does not work.

What size nib did you use?

Did you seal it with anything?

Did you draw the lines freehand or did you use a rule?

Steve(old one) & William (young one)


Hi Both

try this link - http://www.ryman.co.uk/0847023917/Pente ... ip/Product

I cut the markings from paper first and then use it as a mask. They dont need sealing but I give a quick spray of matt varnish anyway. Still more to do on the roads though.

Plasticote suede is a textured spray paint, its good for concrete in 4mm scale

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Re: road surface

Postby matty198891 » Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:48 pm

love the road wouyld lobe have 1 in n gauge but no idea how to
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Re: road surface

Postby Jim S-W » Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:27 pm

Hiya

I would say use the exact same method minus the textured paint as it would be too much for N

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Re: road surface

Postby matty198891 » Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:29 am

its more a adding the acual marking ``ie ow todraw em
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Re: road surface

Postby matty198891 » Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:36 am

also what should i use for the clour of your road asi want that
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Re: road surface

Postby matty198891 » Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:39 am

can any 1 make me n` gaug d makring ether as stencel or tranfers stickrs to stick down when no what want willl let them no
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