Oh...NO...! Not another 1/32 diorama...!!!

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Re: Oh...NO...! Not another 1/32 diorama...!!!

Postby Daniel » Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:38 am

Mountain:

I've paid euro 34.00 + post for the full set that includes two big wheels, two small ones, two curved spoked flywheels and two pulleys but it varies with scale and chosen material.
Since mine are for static modelling I chose for the most detailled but also most fragile material that happens to be also the cheapest one but for a working model I would chose a stronger material.
I never put my designs for sale but if you or anyone else wants a set of these or any other of my designs just let me know and I will arrange that at cost price plus posting costs.( I don't charge one cent on that).)
The price I mentioned above was for my 1/32 but smaller scales would be cheaper and bigger ones more expensive.
The problem with this drawing and all the older ones is I still can order many of them but have lost the original drawings (all dead when my old computer passed away a couple of months ago) so can not modify a thing. For some models that wouldn't be a problem but the wheels and all older designs would requiere some modifications in order to adapt the minimun thickness of the chosen material. The minimum thickness is one of the most broing limitation with 3D printing designs.


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Re: Oh...NO...! Not another 1/32 diorama...!!!

Postby Daniel » Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:46 am

Well, making the front axle was a very enjoiable fiasco I don't regret. Anyway I will make a more realistic 'metal' one in styrene with plenty of ........*

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Also the chimney is too fat and will bew replaced after breakfast.


* : with ......... I mean rivets in this case.
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Re: Oh...NO...! Not another 1/32 diorama...!!!

Postby Mountain » Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:10 am

Daniel wrote:Mountain:

I've paid euro 34.00 + post for the full set that includes two big wheels, two small ones, two curved spoked flywheels and two pulleys but it varies with scale and chosen material.
Since mine are for static modelling I chose for the most detailled but also most fragile material that happens to be also the cheapest one but for a working model I would chose a stronger material.
I never put my designs for sale but if you or anyone else wants a set of these or any other of my designs just let me know and I will arrange that at cost price plus posting costs.( I don't charge one cent on that).)
The price I mentioned above was for my 1/32 but smaller scales would be cheaper and bigger ones more expensive.
The problem with this drawing and all the older ones is I still can order many of them but have lost the original drawings (all dead when my old computer passed away a couple of months ago) so can not modify a thing. For some models that wouldn't be a problem but the wheels and all older designs would requiere some modifications in order to adapt the minimun thickness of the chosen material. The minimum thickness is one of the most broing limitation with 3D printing designs.


Daniel


Why I was asking is to obtain a cheap way of making small waggon wheels as the metal ones commercially available cost a lot per axle. I think around £1.50 to £2 per axle these days. I was wondering if there are cheaper alternatives. I have tried resin and it does work but it is not ideal as is a little too coarse due to the need for sufficient material to get strength to the flanges. I am just considering alternatives. If they are going to cost more then the metal ones then it would be silly as the metal ones run so well.

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Re: Oh...NO...! Not another 1/32 diorama...!!!

Postby Daniel » Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:51 am

Mountain wrote:
Why I was asking is to obtain a cheap way of making small waggon wheels as the metal ones commercially available cost a lot per axle. I think around £1.50 to £2 per axle these days. I was wondering if there are cheaper alternatives. I have tried resin and it does work but it is not ideal as is a little too coarse due to the need for sufficient material to get strength to the flanges. I am just considering alternatives. If they are going to cost more then the metal ones then it would be silly as the metal ones run so well.
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I see.
If you search at SHAPWAYS website the shops, there are plenty of fellows selling all kinds of railways wheels but -you know me- I would try buying a bunch of secondhand wheelsets more or less the needed size.

Taking account of your many skills it seems to me it would be may be a posible option to cast your own wheels from a silicone rubber mold you cam make at home.

Also combining may work:

you make the silicone rubber at home but from a 3D printed prototype just as you want and print as many as you like.
I've lkearnt to make a little mold for printing just one piece. Print a small bnumber of them with that mold -say a dozen or so- and then make a mold for casting a dozen each time.

But, Mountain, knowing you a bit I think you'll find, no doubt, your way to it.

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Re: Oh...NO...! Not another 1/32 diorama...!!!

Postby Ex-Pat » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:49 pm

Another fascinating read - makes a change from scenery. Also nicely fills the void currently left by manna (whose return cannot come soon enough for me).

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Re: Oh...NO...! Not another 1/32 diorama...!!!

Postby Daniel » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:06 pm

Ex-Pat wrote:Another fascinating read - makes a change from scenery. Also nicely fills the void currently left by manna (whose return cannot come soon enough for me).



Thank you Ex-Pat.
Nice to know you enjoy it.

I have no idea what or who is 'manna' but you know my lone brain cell memory function is not so reliable as a couple of years ago so, please, don't take offense. (I had to apologize to a doctor after being very angry with her becauise she assured she had seen me six months before at the hospital and I was sure that was not so. Later, at home, I suddenly rememered the whole thing so must call her and aplogize. :oops:

So don't be surp[rised if one of these days I become a new member of this forum and start with a message presenting myself! :lol:

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Re: Oh...NO...! Not another 1/32 diorama...!!!

Postby Ex-Pat » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:51 pm

PM on its way to you Daniel.

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Re: Oh...NO...! Not another 1/32 diorama...!!!

Postby Daniel » Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:36 pm

I wanted to get at least a bit of a notion about the Meccano that must goon the iron horse...

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... but now I think it would be less of a headache if I complete the drawing and let it 3D print... so probably tomorrow I will know if it still doable for Mr. Wallet.

(I cross my toes.).
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Re: Oh...NO...! Not another 1/32 diorama...!!!

Postby Nevadablue » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:03 pm

Don’t forget the connecting rod. There’s nothing between the piston and crosshead. Of course you can always add it after printing.

Very cool model by the way.

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Re: Oh...NO...! Not another 1/32 diorama...!!!

Postby Daniel » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:50 pm

Nevadablue wrote:Don’t forget the connecting rod. There’s nothing between the piston and crosshead. Of course you can always add it after printing.

Very cool model by the way.


Thank you Ken.

Yes, the piston rod is not there. But was my choice: I want to add to the already painted machine an 1,5mm steel rod for the piston rod. Nothing imitates steel better than steel and in contrast with the heavy weathered locomobile will shine as real... (I hope.)
That was also the reason for making the drawing in two separate pieces.

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Re: Oh...NO...! Not another 1/32 diorama...!!!

Postby Nevadablue » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:19 am

Very true Daniel. This little machine will be a prize I’m sure.

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Re: Oh...NO...! Not another 1/32 diorama...!!!

Postby Daniel » Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:21 am

This is also a project I would love to make and Shapeways:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u71kzF1XfQM

After all this is more or less discarding the motor and droping the rest of the oldest lathe I ever had and the first sewing machine my mother had in the mixer et voilá!

No, serious, I love such old machines!
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Re: Oh...NO...! Not another 1/32 diorama...!!!

Postby Nevadablue » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:17 pm

I would love to have the real machine!

I have plans and plan… to build a treadle wood lathe. My list is too long.

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Re: Oh...NO...! Not another 1/32 diorama...!!!

Postby Daniel » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:50 pm

Nevadablue wrote:I would love to have the real machine!

I have plans and plan… to build a treadle wood lathe. My list is too long.



Well, dear Ken, that is why I avoid making plans:
They only mean 'Not now' so at the end they were only excuses.
I prefer even a fiasco than a delay: from the fiasco I can at least learn something while from delays I have never learnt a thing.

See this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCt3LooUVsQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwKIpG2Znvw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv4XdYzpAKo

The fellow has a whole series of films about and there are in the column at the right of the film plenty of other people's experiences.

Of course, building up a great collection of films can also be a way of fooling oneself with delays. Don't! :wink:


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Re: Oh...NO...! Not another 1/32 diorama...!!!

Postby Daniel » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:13 pm

Good news for the new circle saw: the sled is ready for work.
This time I made it more precise, stronger and more versatile so nex Rowan(ish) intent will get a goo soon...

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Yes, except the MDF and the two hardwood fences all the rest is from MakerBeam.
I thought about buying one day the basic kit (costs between 90 to 100 euro) but when I got the money I thought I would do better composing my own kit according to my personal needs. So I did and am happy for that. The cost was the same. The box is a cheap one from ACTION that I had at home.


I think I posted before something about MakerBeam and there is plkenty about findable in the net. , among other at Youtube. It is a system being used for building small CNC machines, 3D printers and the such. Very clever design and affordable (...until now!).
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