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Trees,bushes scrub etc

Postby Ogster » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:17 pm

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Looking at using small springs of green heather for use as small trees and bushes - perhaps sprinkling on a little flock for a more realistic result. Any ideas as to how to preserve the dark green natural foliage of the heather - spray lacquer perhaps

Additionally looking for cheap ideas for trackside scrub/weeds etc. Thoughts include coarse sawdust dyed with suitably green poster paint sprinkled onto PVA - perhaps with the addition of some long (4mm) static grass at suitable intervals?

Thoughts appreciated.

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Re: Trees,bushes scrub etc

Postby Bufferstop » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:38 pm

Most cut foliage changes colour over the first few weeks, sheds seeds and sometimes leaves. I have used sedum heads to make trees, I hung them up under the porch of our garden cabin. Once they had stopped shedding (unless shaken hard) I sprayed them with varnish, allowed them to dry then sprayed them with glue and shook various green scatters over them. I think you have to accept that they will lose colour when first cut.
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Re: Trees,bushes scrub etc

Postby Lancastrian » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:45 pm

To preserve the colours of heathers any colour, do what the grower do, they spray them with the colour they want. If you do varnish them can I suggest satin (non gloss)yacht varnish.
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Re: Trees,bushes scrub etc

Postby Dave » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:18 pm

Ogster wrote:Thoughts include coarse sawdust dyed with suitably green poster paint sprinkled onto PVA - perhaps with the addition of some long (4mm) static grass at suitable intervals?

Coloured sawdust was the staple ground cover for many years, I would be vary wary of using static grass as well, as the old (sawdust) and the new (SG) will look worlds apart.

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Re: Trees,bushes scrub etc

Postby TimberSurf » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:29 pm

All the tutorials you need, are based around war gaming, less so railways!

They are the masters of make your own scenic materials
Try Youtube search for "how to make" flock or trees
Top vid makers are RubbishInRubbishOut and TheTerrainTutor
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Re: Trees,bushes scrub etc

Postby nickbrad » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:33 pm

I'll second The Terrain Tutor, his videos are great.

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Re: Trees,bushes scrub etc

Postby 4472 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:36 pm

Discovered in the garden centres this Christmas my wife used the plastic imitation cut sprigs. Just cutting off the ends make passable small trees and shrubs. They look good in the model gardens and don't shed They come in various colours and are cheap.
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Re: Trees,bushes scrub etc

Postby luckymucklebackit » Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:59 am

I did a short tutorial on how to make trees from dead Hydrangea flowers, link below

https://www.newrailwaymodellers.co.uk/Forums/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=33932&start=240#p631470

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Re: Trees,bushes scrub etc

Postby b308 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:03 pm

I know of one 5.5mm scale NG layout which uses real heather, suitably watered from time to time, it must be about 40 years old by now!!

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Re: Trees,bushes scrub etc

Postby Mountain » Sat Dec 23, 2017 12:11 am

I've recently bought a cheap packet of plastic plants which look amazing. They were intended to be used for fishtanks. They are too large for 00 scale though, but I will get away with them on my 7mm narrow gauge layout though I do intend to cut them to size, which in effect gives me even more plants if I'm careful how I do it.
The issue one has in 4mm scale 00 gauge is to make realistic bushes the manual method, to cut out tiny leaves and individually stick them on is not really a viable option (Not really an option in a larger scale either unless it is a model of a plant with large leaves) so what one has is representations of various plants and trees rather then models of them.
My thoughts on electrostatic grass. I've seen many layouts in magazines and an odd layout at exhibition using this and while as individual blades the grass looks amazingly realistic, when applied to layouts they stand out and certainly dont give the natural look one is hoping to achieve, yet I've found working with flock type materials to give a very real feel to the grass type coverings of ones scenic framework. I can't fathom why or what the reason why electrostatic grass just doesn't look right when I see it on a layout, as out of all the layouts I've seen, only one actually impressed me in that it looked like a covering of grass. I did think that it was a matter of scale but when I saw a larger scale with it being used it too gave an odd unrealistic look to it, which is ever so strange when I zoom in a bit and find it looks realistic from the point of view when one looks at individual blades.

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Re: Trees,bushes scrub etc

Postby glencairn » Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:35 pm

If you go to a garden centre and enquire abut artificial grass, a good one will give you a small piece with the literature.

It is ideal for long grass. Add further foliage/colour and voila. Here are a three picures of what I have done using the artificial grass.

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Re: Trees,bushes scrub etc

Postby GeraldH » Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:54 am

That's a pretty impressive set of vegetation, it looks great. If you wanted, you could create a jungle railway :) .
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Re: Trees,bushes scrub etc

Postby glencairn » Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:08 pm

Thanks GeraldH.
The story of why it's overgrown is -- In his report, Dr Beeching recommended the closure of Glencairn North British Station; leaving Glencairn Scholarsgate (Caledonian Railway) the remaining station open. Train services were drastically reduced, and the small engine shed began to be run down and unkempt. Then train services picked up. Maybe someone will tidy the place up --- maybe not.
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Re: Trees,bushes scrub etc

Postby dan8400 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:17 am

TimberSurf wrote:All the tutorials you need, are based around war gaming, less so railways!

They are the masters of make your own scenic materials
Try Youtube search for "how to make" flock or trees
Top vid makers are RubbishInRubbishOut and TheTerrainTutor



Also check out 'lukes aps' on youtube. He is in a similar vein to the terrain tutor.

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