Tinwald workbench
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Tinwald workbench
I thought I'd start a thread for my rolling stock that I've been weathering.
I'm a huge fan of weathering all rolling stock/loco's/buildings and structures, to give them more "realism". I know it's not everyone's cup of tea, and some of us are a bit scared to take a brush to our beloved stock, however, "you never know until you give it a go!"
The inspiration for weathering my stock was from Ebay, (I know this is a swear word to some of you) but you can learn a lot by scouring said site on whats available RTR, and what others are selling/creating . One seller in particular,(I'm not sure if the Mod's will let me indentify him) gave me the idea of weathering my own rolling stock, which then got me into weathering my own loco's.
Now, I'm not saying my efforts are professional, or that I'm in any way the best at it, but for me, I think I've done a good enough job to pass muster. I use a "dry brush" technique and not an air brush - even though I do have one (just haven't bothered to use it yet, as I like "dry brushing").
I enjoy trying to make the object I'm working on, look like it has been working, or has been out in all weathers, and consequently shows its age, as I don't believe everything stays pristine all it's life. It may get cleaned every once-in-a-while, but eventually, it will remain dirty, and that's the look I'm after.
so, with that said, let's get on with it!
the first item, on a long list is ...................
This was the very first wagon I saw that started me thinking "I could do that!"
So I got out my paints and I took the plunge. I use water based acrylics, as they can be washed off with warm soapy water if I don't like the outcome.
Now this is what I did with dry brushing only ..........
Like I said not professional quality, but I'm pleased with the results.
I used a black, rubbed into the nooks and crannies with my fingers & thumbs (it's a messy way, but it does the job), then once happy with that, I got out the fine brushes, and some thin white paint, to make as thought something corrosive, or powdery, had "leaked" out of the joins.
A brown was then applied, to weather the whole wagon like it had been through lots of mileage, bad weather/storms etc, and then neglected on a siding.
As you can see its passable and I think it looks the part. One day I will get the nerve to play with an air compressor and use the airbrush and see what it can do. In the mean time my "dry brushing" technique suits me fine.
I shall post more of my rolling stock with comparisons from others I have seen.
I hope you enjoy .......................
I'm a huge fan of weathering all rolling stock/loco's/buildings and structures, to give them more "realism". I know it's not everyone's cup of tea, and some of us are a bit scared to take a brush to our beloved stock, however, "you never know until you give it a go!"
The inspiration for weathering my stock was from Ebay, (I know this is a swear word to some of you) but you can learn a lot by scouring said site on whats available RTR, and what others are selling/creating . One seller in particular,(I'm not sure if the Mod's will let me indentify him) gave me the idea of weathering my own rolling stock, which then got me into weathering my own loco's.
Now, I'm not saying my efforts are professional, or that I'm in any way the best at it, but for me, I think I've done a good enough job to pass muster. I use a "dry brush" technique and not an air brush - even though I do have one (just haven't bothered to use it yet, as I like "dry brushing").
I enjoy trying to make the object I'm working on, look like it has been working, or has been out in all weathers, and consequently shows its age, as I don't believe everything stays pristine all it's life. It may get cleaned every once-in-a-while, but eventually, it will remain dirty, and that's the look I'm after.
so, with that said, let's get on with it!
the first item, on a long list is ...................
This was the very first wagon I saw that started me thinking "I could do that!"
So I got out my paints and I took the plunge. I use water based acrylics, as they can be washed off with warm soapy water if I don't like the outcome.
Now this is what I did with dry brushing only ..........
Like I said not professional quality, but I'm pleased with the results.
I used a black, rubbed into the nooks and crannies with my fingers & thumbs (it's a messy way, but it does the job), then once happy with that, I got out the fine brushes, and some thin white paint, to make as thought something corrosive, or powdery, had "leaked" out of the joins.
A brown was then applied, to weather the whole wagon like it had been through lots of mileage, bad weather/storms etc, and then neglected on a siding.
As you can see its passable and I think it looks the part. One day I will get the nerve to play with an air compressor and use the airbrush and see what it can do. In the mean time my "dry brushing" technique suits me fine.
I shall post more of my rolling stock with comparisons from others I have seen.
I hope you enjoy .......................
research = asking a bloke who knows a bloke who said something vaguely similar to what I wanted to hear! - Tony (aka the Phat Controller)
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This next wagon I had fun with. I'd gained the confidence to let my creative juices flow (not as messy as you think!)
I have 4 of these GWR brown Palethorpes bogie Vans and 6 x Enparts/Motorail BR Blue Vans so I had lots of ideas I wanted to use
This specimen below was not weathered by me but was the "model" for my work.
I created these - and went a little OTT on some with the weathering.
I wanted then to stand out and look as though they were "worked hard" so I weathered them accordingly. I also Googled images of actual Vans that were weathered - I was surprised how badly they weathered, but were still in use!!
The sides are made of wood so I tried to emulate faded sun bleached look on this one, also I had some steps missing, so instead of fixing them, I made a "no step" 'ramp only" warning sign, which is my design, and was not used, as far as I know, on the real Vans - but I liked the idea so I stuck with it!
This one wasn't "attacked" so much, I didn't want them to look too similar, so I backed off on the weathering a bit.
These last two were given a different look just to be different and also hone my brushing skills (trying to keep my hand steady)
This got the rusty treatment and a different weathered look - I was quite pleased with how they both came out
This got the best look in my opinion and was the last to get weathered (wish I'd done them all like this)
Any ways I did what I did - and I got what I got.
It was a great learning experience and I can live with the results
BTW: Ealing denoted on all these Vans is actually a real life "Halt" on the same line as the real life Tinwald, I just used the name to give them some reminder of home.
I have 4 of these GWR brown Palethorpes bogie Vans and 6 x Enparts/Motorail BR Blue Vans so I had lots of ideas I wanted to use
This specimen below was not weathered by me but was the "model" for my work.
I created these - and went a little OTT on some with the weathering.
I wanted then to stand out and look as though they were "worked hard" so I weathered them accordingly. I also Googled images of actual Vans that were weathered - I was surprised how badly they weathered, but were still in use!!
The sides are made of wood so I tried to emulate faded sun bleached look on this one, also I had some steps missing, so instead of fixing them, I made a "no step" 'ramp only" warning sign, which is my design, and was not used, as far as I know, on the real Vans - but I liked the idea so I stuck with it!
This one wasn't "attacked" so much, I didn't want them to look too similar, so I backed off on the weathering a bit.
These last two were given a different look just to be different and also hone my brushing skills (trying to keep my hand steady)
This got the rusty treatment and a different weathered look - I was quite pleased with how they both came out
This got the best look in my opinion and was the last to get weathered (wish I'd done them all like this)
Any ways I did what I did - and I got what I got.
It was a great learning experience and I can live with the results
BTW: Ealing denoted on all these Vans is actually a real life "Halt" on the same line as the real life Tinwald, I just used the name to give them some reminder of home.
research = asking a bloke who knows a bloke who said something vaguely similar to what I wanted to hear! - Tony (aka the Phat Controller)
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Looks like you have got the "knack" great stuff will be following with interest.
Stephen
Apparently my memory has been degraded - so i am not stupid after all - what a relief!
http://www.mainline-railways.co.uk http://www.preserved-railways.co.uk
Apparently my memory has been degraded - so i am not stupid after all - what a relief!
http://www.mainline-railways.co.uk http://www.preserved-railways.co.uk
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I need to start looking at everyones workbench threads more often. Truely some great art at work here. You've done wonders with those wagons. In place on the layout with solid photography those are going to look completely realistic. Well done mate.
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thanks GreenBR I was a bit scared of the airbrush (I still am to be honest) so I developed my "technique" to see what I could do.
I've sold a few excess rolling stock on our favourite online trading site and credit the weathering to "paintyourwagon" which is actually me!
I liked the movie, and I liked the name, as I started out painting wagons to see what I came up with.
So now my secrets out - if you see the name you know who it is
Josh once again thank you for your appreciation of my efforts, it really means a lot when fellow devotees "mark" your work. I do this for myself, however, I share theses pics in the hope that some one will pick up a brush, and at least try to release their inner weatherer!!
I've sold a few excess rolling stock on our favourite online trading site and credit the weathering to "paintyourwagon" which is actually me!
I liked the movie, and I liked the name, as I started out painting wagons to see what I came up with.
So now my secrets out - if you see the name you know who it is
Josh once again thank you for your appreciation of my efforts, it really means a lot when fellow devotees "mark" your work. I do this for myself, however, I share theses pics in the hope that some one will pick up a brush, and at least try to release their inner weatherer!!
research = asking a bloke who knows a bloke who said something vaguely similar to what I wanted to hear! - Tony (aka the Phat Controller)
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............. alright now for the BR Blue ENPARTS & Motrail Vans!
Again I wanted to weather them in different states of distress to make them unique and interesting using the lessons learned from the Palethorpes experiment. I've only shown 4, the last two were not weathered, and have been sold.
#1 ENPARTS was given a "rusty" look, and a grubby hue of dark Umber, for mud splatter, shunters marks denote to return to Tinwald (TWD)
#2 The smartest one I think - very pleased with the outcome, one panel has been replaced and primed, but not yet given the top coat of BR Blue, again marked return to Tinwald
#3 On Motorail I had fun, using some of the ideas I used on the Palethorpes Vans. Two primered replacement panels are again displayed, with a "No Step" warning sign on one of the double doors, as well as rusty hinges, and a liberal dose of dark Umber for the dirt.
#4 ENPARTS is a newer addition, so has not been weathered as much, just a dark Umber to show its been on track - it has been returned empty to Tinwald, to make up the rake of 4
As an aside, I was weathering my rolling stock I tried to get pictures of shunters markings - it was very difficult to get anything solid to refer too, maybe I was just looking in the wrong places!! - so if any of you shunter boffins know of a resource that shows actual shunters marks on the sides of wagons, I would be forever grateful
Again I wanted to weather them in different states of distress to make them unique and interesting using the lessons learned from the Palethorpes experiment. I've only shown 4, the last two were not weathered, and have been sold.
#1 ENPARTS was given a "rusty" look, and a grubby hue of dark Umber, for mud splatter, shunters marks denote to return to Tinwald (TWD)
#2 The smartest one I think - very pleased with the outcome, one panel has been replaced and primed, but not yet given the top coat of BR Blue, again marked return to Tinwald
#3 On Motorail I had fun, using some of the ideas I used on the Palethorpes Vans. Two primered replacement panels are again displayed, with a "No Step" warning sign on one of the double doors, as well as rusty hinges, and a liberal dose of dark Umber for the dirt.
#4 ENPARTS is a newer addition, so has not been weathered as much, just a dark Umber to show its been on track - it has been returned empty to Tinwald, to make up the rake of 4
As an aside, I was weathering my rolling stock I tried to get pictures of shunters markings - it was very difficult to get anything solid to refer too, maybe I was just looking in the wrong places!! - so if any of you shunter boffins know of a resource that shows actual shunters marks on the sides of wagons, I would be forever grateful
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Excellent weathering, I too would love to invest in an airbrush and compressor, but I continually put it off, have you tried the Matt Aerosols available form Halfords, they do a Dark (camouflage) brown and a khaki which are excellent for dusting to give a general dirty appearance, also the pound shop sells a Matt black but you have to watch that as it sometimes gives poor atomisation. I also use coloured pastel chalk which also gives that dusty, dirty look.
Jim
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Thanks Jim, my air compressor and air brush are gathering dust on the shelf, as I delve into the dry brushing technique. I spent a bit on purchasing them both, so I really should pluck up the courage to set it up and see what I can produce.
I do use matt aerosols, but not for weathering on my stock, its mainly for base coats ie I will spray a complete vented van or coal hopper matt grey/red oxide/black or blue depending on my mood.
The cans I buy are Dulux dura max, around the AUD$9.00 a 340g can, with a chalky finish. The AUD$1.99 250g cans were just too inconsistent to use, the tint would be slightly different, and one can would splutter, (poor atomisation) whilst the other would spray perfectly, I just can't risk that on my stock, so I took to weathering with a brush, I was just to scared to use aerosols (and the air brush) on my stock.
Pastels I've seen videos of and I must admit I'm intrigued, and I think they would suit me better than aerosols, one day I will try then too. Pastels would be great for weathering my buildings as well!! You might be onto something there.
I do use matt aerosols, but not for weathering on my stock, its mainly for base coats ie I will spray a complete vented van or coal hopper matt grey/red oxide/black or blue depending on my mood.
The cans I buy are Dulux dura max, around the AUD$9.00 a 340g can, with a chalky finish. The AUD$1.99 250g cans were just too inconsistent to use, the tint would be slightly different, and one can would splutter, (poor atomisation) whilst the other would spray perfectly, I just can't risk that on my stock, so I took to weathering with a brush, I was just to scared to use aerosols (and the air brush) on my stock.
Pastels I've seen videos of and I must admit I'm intrigued, and I think they would suit me better than aerosols, one day I will try then too. Pastels would be great for weathering my buildings as well!! You might be onto something there.
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Regarding Shunters marks, I know this site is not specifically for that but is is the proverbial gold mine for all things wagons and vans - https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/paulb ... lwaywagons
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Hi your rolling stock weathering is very good. I don’t have an airbrush but I find dry brushing is my preferred weathering technique.
Kevin
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Ive done a fair amount of airbrush work and the airbrush is a fantastic tool. Just work to get your paint to a good consistency that it a) doesnt spit and b) isnt too transparent. A single action airbrush is much easier for a beginner as opposed to a dual action depending what you have.
To be honest however i find the airbrush technique for weatherng a little to consistent. Its great for fine detail painting and weathering large areas ( i did a turntable well for example with good results)but wagons and coaches I think your on the money with your technique. Its hard to beat the realism of grey washes and dry brushing and powders. Its a more realistic copy of what rolling stock is subject to prototypically.
To be honest however i find the airbrush technique for weatherng a little to consistent. Its great for fine detail painting and weathering large areas ( i did a turntable well for example with good results)but wagons and coaches I think your on the money with your technique. Its hard to beat the realism of grey washes and dry brushing and powders. Its a more realistic copy of what rolling stock is subject to prototypically.
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thanks for the link Jim, I've used similar sites to get references to shunters markings and as you can see they're few and far between. Nice pics of wagons and coaches though.
Yes Josh I think airbrushing in my mind is good for laying down a base coat and then layering detailed weathering on top, seems a hassle if you've already got the brushes out.
........ and thank you LampLighter for looking, would like to see some of your results as well.
Yes Josh I think airbrushing in my mind is good for laying down a base coat and then layering detailed weathering on top, seems a hassle if you've already got the brushes out.
........ and thank you LampLighter for looking, would like to see some of your results as well.
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ok next ..........
I think you're gonna like these, I certainly do.
I bought a bulk lot of "bare" silver coal hoppers a long time ago, and didn't actually think i'd do anything with them - I was going to relist them, and that would be that! however ..............
I had fun doing these hoppers - gave me no end of joy putting them together. Yes that is real coal!
Ladders were in my "bits" box - which everyone should have under their bench
the Black and Red Oxide bodies were spray painted then weathered - it's very hard to "rustify" red oxide paint!!
I think you're gonna like these, I certainly do.
I bought a bulk lot of "bare" silver coal hoppers a long time ago, and didn't actually think i'd do anything with them - I was going to relist them, and that would be that! however ..............
I had fun doing these hoppers - gave me no end of joy putting them together. Yes that is real coal!
Ladders were in my "bits" box - which everyone should have under their bench
the Black and Red Oxide bodies were spray painted then weathered - it's very hard to "rustify" red oxide paint!!
research = asking a bloke who knows a bloke who said something vaguely similar to what I wanted to hear! - Tony (aka the Phat Controller)
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Stunning! I like that oxide wagon the most. It looks like its been bright red and had pigment fallout and bleaching from the sun and the grime and rust add to it. Very very clever
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Blimey!
Supurb modelling.
Thanks for sharing
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Supurb modelling.
Thanks for sharing
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