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Things what I does...

Postby flying scotsman123 » Sat Oct 04, 2014 12:12 pm

I really should have done this a while ago, frankly it's a bit embarrassing that I've been here for a few years now, clocked over 1000 posts, and the thread I've commented most in is Someone else's layout :oops: And my actual modelling contributions to this forum can best be described as sparse :oops:. So here's a thread for "Things what I does." Occasionally featuring my barely started heritage layout in ex-LSWR territory bordering the GWR (So I can have the right architecture the the right rolling stock!), but more often just what I happen to be doing at the moment.

So, first a little bit of catch up from the last couple of months or so. I've taken rather a liking to the LSWR, but I had already decided to go for the usual cop-out of a heritage railway for my layout so I could run what I liked. But heritage railways still have to be based in an area, so it will become a sort of a semblance of Corfe Castle for one of my stations, and I've been having my first real adventure into plastic scratch modelling in making a few of the buildings there. I posted them on Geoff's general scratch building thread, but I'll put them here as well:

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This was my first attempt, the waiting room on platform 2. apart from the hipped roof this was a relatively simple design. I was quite pleased with this for my first effort, but although my attempt at guttering doesn't look quite that bad in real life, I will come back to it!

My next building was perhaps rather adventurous, going for the signal box:

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Windows were the main problem, I didn't really fancy doing them in plastic strip, and I couldn't really find any propriety ones that really matched, apart from some bespoke made ones costing more than I was prepared to pay (which to be honest, wasn't necessarily a lot!).

So I drew up the window frame pattern, taped it to the back of some acetate, put some masking tape on top of that and scored the masking tape along the lines that could just be seen from the pattern behind. The individual strips were then peeled off leaving the squares of masking tape where the panes were to be left there, then slapped some off-wite paint on, and then removing the masking tape. It went surprisingly well!

Each window took me about 20 minutes to do, so it took me a while to do 5 but I'm very pleased with them, and I will be using this method again. The only propriety item here was the staircase as I didn't fancy making that.

I then went for something a little simpler, the goods shed, although a lot more difficult to get right there weren't very many pictures. This is only part finished at the moment, but looks like this:

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At one point the sliding doors were going to be functional, but then they weren't. :D Oh well...

You can just about spot in the signal box picture something which I made a start on ages ago then put away again, my short LSWR bashed train:

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This was my first proper attempt at repainting stock, all done by hand brush painting, the lining was my first attempt to and went well I think, especially considering that the lining on the wheel splashers all had to come from striaght lines as there were no others that fitted. the coaches are tri-ang clerestories with the roofs re-hashed, and all the lettering is home made in MS publisher using some clear backed transfer paper, meaning I had to paint where the transfer was going white, then paint around it once it was stuck on.

More recently I've been distracted with a small diorama based on the bridge at Winchcombe station on the GWSR, where I volunteer in the C+W department:

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Bridge was scratch built from plastikard, embankments made from plaster bandage on wire mesh, and the signals are the only things I've had to buy for it so far! Perhaps one day it might form part of a larger layout, but I've got other stuff on the cards first.

Anyway, that's what I've been up to, further posts as and when, probably just on my diorama until it's finished, then moving onto more buildings - the main station building at Corfe castle is next up...
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Re: Things what I does...

Postby skyblue » Sat Oct 04, 2014 1:35 pm

It's great to see some of your work - the signal box in particular looks really good. I like the LSWR M7 and coaches - definitely a livery that just 'works' - like GWR chocolate and cream. Looking forward to further updates.

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Postby flying scotsman123 » Sat Oct 04, 2014 1:45 pm

Thanks Skyblue, I do like the LSWR livery, although I'm not as keen on their pea green as worn by the Adams Radial at the Bluebell. I like most liveries to be honest, maybe why I have such variety of stock, so I can have things in all different colours...
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Postby Ex-Pat » Sat Oct 04, 2014 4:58 pm

The track looks nicely embedded in the ballast - what make of track is it?

How did you keep your hand steady to do the loco lining?

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Postby flying scotsman123 » Sat Oct 04, 2014 5:06 pm

Ex-Pat wrote:The track looks nicely embedded in the ballast - what make of track is it?


Just bog standard hornby set track code 100 type stuff, ballasted with woodland scenics stuff, nothing special.

Ex-Pat wrote:How did you keep your hand steady to do the loco lining?


Crumbs I'm not that good! Took me ages to find some suitable lining transfers, eventually realised that HMRS LNER lining would do the job, but it only came in straight lines and tight corners, so for the wheel splashers I had to cut a piece up into many bits a mm or two in length and curl them round.
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Postby Ex-Pat » Sat Oct 04, 2014 5:22 pm

I must admit that I did think lining transfers had been used, but I took you at your words "all done by hand brush painting" and just wanted to make sure!

Excellent ballasting job on the track - I would never have guessed it was Hornby Set Track.

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Postby flying scotsman123 » Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:55 pm

Ex-Pat wrote:I must admit that I did think lining transfers had been used, but I took you at your words "all done by hand brush painting" and just wanted to make sure!

Excellent ballasting job on the track - I would never have guessed it was Hornby Set Track.


Ahh yes I see, I suppose I was a bit misleading :D Thanks for the ballast compiment, I've never really thought about it, just pinned the track down and shovelled some on, once it's dry go round with a small screwdriver not only on the sides of rails but on the sleepers too to tidy things up.
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Postby Dad-1 » Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:41 pm

This is a serious comment ..... excluding the 'What I does' ......

There are some people who have a certain gift of managing to try something & come away smelling
of roses FS123 is one of those people.

For others I'd say ..... 'Use your eyes' to really see what's there.
If you don't try you will NEVER learn the skills.
Be prepared to fail, don't let fear of failure stop you, or you won't grow
Confidence will carry you through, even though at times you may wonder if you'll get it right.

As a final comment - On this forum there are some skilled modellers who are not 'above themselves'
and will help others out, almost to extreme degrees. So if it's going wrong ASK !!

Sorry to pinch your page FS123.

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Postby flying scotsman123 » Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:54 pm

Dad-1 wrote:This is a serious comment ..... excluding the 'What I does' ......

There are some people who have a certain gift of managing to try something & come away smelling
of roses FS123 is one of those people.

For others I'd say ..... 'Use your eyes' to really see what's there.
If you don't try you will NEVER learn the skills.
Be prepared to fail, don't let fear of failure stop you, or you won't grow
Confidence will carry you through, even though at times you may wonder if you'll get it right.

As a final comment - On this forum there are some skilled modellers who are not 'above themselves'
and will help others out, almost to extreme degrees. So if it's going wrong ASK !!

Sorry to pinch your page FS123.

Geoff T.


That's fine Geoff, thank you very much :). I had a couple of revelations with my modelling when it wasn't really going anywhere, 1) Stopping being such a Yorkshireman and buying some proper plastikard and stop faffing around trying to scratch build with card, and 2) stop trying to use my imagination - it's rubbish, base it on something real or it will look ridiculous :lol: Put a compliment in at the start Geoff and you can advertise a new range of railway models if you like! :D
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Re: Things what I does...

Postby ParkeNd » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:13 am

I have only visited "your" railway once which was at Cheltenham Racecourse which coincided with a train famine. I took a few pictures and your diorama captures the feel of the railway perfectly. The bridge is very good indeed.

Your conversion to scratch building and move away from imagined layouts was a move which others should sample. Not only is it demonstrably more convincing but also saves you having to dream up another naff name.

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Postby siquelme » Sun Oct 05, 2014 8:27 pm

I finally get to see your layout Alex :-) Really nice
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Postby flying scotsman123 » Mon Oct 06, 2014 6:53 pm

ParkeNd wrote:I have only visited "your" railway once which was at Cheltenham Racecourse which coincided with a train famine. I took a few pictures and your diorama captures the feel of the railway perfectly. The bridge is very good indeed.

Your conversion to scratch building and move away from imagined layouts was a move which others should sample. Not only is it demonstrably more convincing but also saves you having to dream up another naff name.


Yes there was a bit of a train famine, £1.5 million later and it's all fixed again, coincidentally the cost of extending to Broadway :x Oh well, we're getting there (2018 is the plan...)

I quite agree about imagined layouts - far harder to think up something convincing IMO than doing a bit of research. Signally imagined layouts is a bugger to start with, I know naff all about signalling, other than if it goes up or down, a train somewhere can go, and if it isn't, a train somewhere can't, but maybe another can... Signalman is not a department I think I'd be very good in, I'll stick to me coaches! Scratch building is not something I'd suggest as an entry point, I went for metcalfe kits and the like. The thing was when I wanted to make more personal buildings I naturally tried to carry on in card which I think I actually a harder medium to work with from scratch, I definitely won't be looking back from plastic.

siquelme wrote:I finally get to see your layout Alex :-) Really nice


Cheers Simon, cough brooks castle cough :D Maybe pictures of my actual layout will come once I get back to it from all these distractions, and put some of my buildings down and made it look vaguely like it's at least going somewhere, albeit not very fast...

Back onto what I'm actually doing, more progress on my little diorama:

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The final embankment has been grassed and a start made on covering up the dodgy bits with bushes, and a bit of colour added to the shrubs by the platform, by sprinkling some pastel powder onto the bushes. It's not perfect, and you can't see it very well in the picture, but it's better than nothing, and certainly cheaper than buying whatever specialist product there is no the market for this and doing it "properly," however that may be. The only major thing left to do is more bushes and trees in certain places, after that it's just adding a few bits of detritus around and if I can make a good enough job of it, some signal cabling along the track side, and maybe if I'm feeling really adventurous some point rodding too (although this would be fictional as the turnout "out of scene" is motorised in preservation, and wouldn't have existed historically as it would have been double track throughout.
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Postby siquelme » Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:49 pm

HaHa your doing better then me, I am struggling with wiring (as you can help by my help tread in the electronics section). Whats your bridge made out of? Looks really impressive might try something similar.
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Postby flying scotsman123 » Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:16 pm

Made from plain plasticard than embossed stuck on top, after being (badly) planned on google sketchup. Badly because when I built it it was too low and clipped locos' chimneys.

Here's the CAD:

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Bridge faces one embossed, one still just plain plasticard:

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And here you can see I added extra height to the inside walls to raise the bridge up high enough - I now have a copy of BR tolerances pinned to my wall!

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Postby Notroh » Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:51 pm

Fs123
You can model from imagination or more likely distant memory

I have found all the correct signalling and signage for Trouvé via the web

But memory helps

Easier for me - I am 58 and modelling something in my memory from when I was both 11 and in my early 20's

It can come with time - just travel when you can - get some memories, that's what I told my kids

However what you are doing is great, and so cheap!

Just keep it up and keep involved

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