help in planing layout

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Re: help in planing layout

Postby Emettman » Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:25 pm

uksteve123 wrote:really like the return loop gives alot of scope for scenery and buildings now to think about era cheers



Was that a definite "no" to the OO9?

But if the return loop appeals I'll see if I can tweak a little more capacity without worsening access issues.
And see what can be gained from giving up live-frog points and going for the Hornby/Peco Setrack version.

For era, I'd suggest the earlier the better (that you still like, of course!!) the smaller locos and shorter coaches will be happier running and look better on these inevitable sharp curves.

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Re: help in planing layout

Postby Emettman » Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:07 am

The OO9 version, just to tempt. Wickedly.
12" minimum radius

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Room for easily accessible storage loop, bay road at main station, an engine shed siding or two, etc.
Narrower baseboards, but far less evidence of "cramp".

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Re: help in planing layout

Postby uksteve123 » Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:55 pm

looks good do not no much about 009

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Re: help in planing layout

Postby Emettman » Thu Jul 07, 2016 5:40 pm

uksteve123 wrote:looks good do not no much about 009



Same scale as OO, same people, buildings, but models narrow gauge trains rather than standard gauge.
Think Festiniog Railway, Talyllyn Railway,
The m odels are smaller omly because the originals are smaller.

Track gauge is 9mm rather than 16.5 which allows for tighter curves (one reason real narrow-gauge exists)

Superb model picture found: A little standard gauge loco with a narrow gauge one alongside
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Fromhttp://michaelsrailways.blogspot.co.uk/2012_05_01_archive.html
These are actually O and O-16.5, but the size relationship is the same.

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Re: help in planing layout

Postby uksteve123 » Thu Jul 07, 2016 5:54 pm

think i might be going 009 it seems to give me more options or n guage

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Re: help in planing layout

Postby uksteve123 » Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:12 pm

no its take the mick but can i tranfer layout to 3d really like the idea of n guage seems the best way to get everthing i want

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Re: help in planing layout

Postby markS&D » Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:15 pm

In the space you have available, N scale would give you a lot more scope, remember although it is 4mm/ft vs 2mm/ft, an equivalent layout in N scale occupies 1/4 of the area it does in 00.

the area you have is 2m x 1.8m,

a layout built in N scale in the same size room, would be equivalent to 4m x 3.6m in 00 scale.
My layout, only look if you are interested.

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Re: help in planing layout

Postby uksteve123 » Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:24 pm

so ican get more track in and buid a more relistic scene /layout relly appricate your help and advice

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Re: help in planing layout

Postby markS&D » Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:50 pm

Happy to help, try this site, it might give you a few ideas, a plan that looks cramped in 00 scale, could work nicely in N scale:

http://www.freetrackplans.com/Layout-Plans.php

The only thing is, N scale locos rolling stock and track are about the same price as the equivalent 00 items.
My layout, only look if you are interested.

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Re: help in planing layout

Postby Emettman » Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:35 pm

uksteve123 wrote:think i might be going 009 it seems to give me more options or n guage



Given you want the equivalent of three stations, and a U shape, OO is going to be cramped, except with very simple track plans of limited capacity, or by using unorthodox tricks..

OO9 keeps you in 4mm scale, and while there is much less choice available for locos and stock this is increasing quite quickly via 3D printing.

N allows more space, something akin to the 009 track plan, but has lots of variety of locos and stock and more choice of eras to opt for.
(my local narrow gauge railway has at least two locos at least 100 years old... will suit most eras!)
It is not necessarily smaller than OO9 as although the scale is smaller it represents models of much bigger engines and coaches.

Those are probably your main choices, though there are many different track plan ideas for each.
On place online to see how much variety exists even for small space layouts, and just for sheer amazement,
is http://www.carendt.com/micro-layout-design-gallery/
The late Carl Arendt collected an amazing collection of plans and built model railways for unusual and tiny locations.

Another good idea, if you've not done so already, is to visit a few local model railway exhibitions, to see what can be done in a variety of scales and spaces.


I found this while looking for a good picture to compare OO with OO9
A (very small) standard gauge loco and and a narrow gauge one to the same scale.
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It's from this remarkable layout:
http://gilesfavell.com/The%20Loop.htm
This actually O scale, in a space just 4ft by 2ft (plus fiddle yard), but the relative proportions remain the same for OO and OO9

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Re: help in planing layout

Postby uksteve123 » Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:43 pm

decided n guage it is think i would like to go for pre 1940 era again thanks for all you refforts and advice

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Re: help in planing layout

Postby Emettman » Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:44 pm

Whole new game!
I'll leave you in peace and grab some rest unless asked again...

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Re: help in planing layout

Postby uksteve123 » Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:51 am

of to modelmania to day to look any more idels always welcome

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Re: help in planing layout

Postby CandO » Sat Jul 09, 2016 10:06 am

Hi Steve,

I'm new to this modelling lark too and have decided to model in N gauge as well due to the size. I'm modelling an actual station area and in OO scale it would have been 20 foot long! :shock: Sounds like we're going for a similar period too as I was going for about end of WWI but may lean towards the early days of grouping which would be from 1923 on.

Hope you have fun - I'm just off to continue making baseboards! :D

Phil

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Re: help in planing layout

Postby uksteve123 » Sat Jul 09, 2016 10:35 am

back from model shop so much choice


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