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The most bizarre engines ever?

Postby rogue » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:48 pm

Please help me out with a project I'm putting together (non-model related), what, in your opinion are the most bizarre looking engines to appear in the UK?
Electric, steam, diesel, whatever, just let me know please.


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Re: The most bizarre engines ever?

Postby End2end » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:54 pm

I always thought the Beyer Garret's were weird looking. :shock:
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Re: The most bizarre engines ever?

Postby wasleys » Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:37 am

In Ireland rather than UK but the Lartigue locos on the Listowel and Ballybunion Railway.

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Re: The most bizarre engines ever?

Postby luckymucklebackit » Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:30 am

You would be hard to beat the Reid-MacLeod Steam Turbine Locomotive.

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Re: The most bizarre engines ever?

Postby skyblue » Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:33 am

The Fell (10100)?

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Re: The most bizarre engines ever?

Postby b308 » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:10 am

The LNER semi-streamlined 2-8-2s and that 2-2-2WT on one of the Col Stephens lines springs to mind... There was also a loco which had been made from an older loco with a traction engine boiler put on it... If you want weird a google image search for light railways should give you plenty!

TBH most British stuff was fairly conventional... If you want weird then you need to look over the Channel!

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Re: The most bizarre engines ever?

Postby Bufferstop » Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:21 am

This takes some beating for weird
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It's a French Heilmann steam/electric hybrid. Steam turbine combined with electric transmission.
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Re: The most bizarre engines ever?

Postby Emettman » Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:22 am

Going back to my school days, I recall the importance of reading the exact terms of the question.

"..,the most bizarre looking engines to appear in the UK."

And I'm aided by having "Unusual Railways" and "More Unusual Railways" by J R Day. (Ignoring all non-UK references)
A few candidates...

The Bennie Railplane.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4Qamg3C188

The Brennan monorail
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Steam monorail loco. Monoloco.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp4vj1rl6c4

The Brockhouse Roadtrain
http://cambrianmodels.co.uk/esxdetls.html

A broad gauge atmospheric engine?
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And to have something on the standard gauge, the Kitson-Still Steam Diesel
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Re: The most bizarre engines ever?

Postby Emettman » Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:24 am

Bufferstop wrote:This takes some beating for weird


Very much agreed, but did it ever appear in the UK?
If we go world-wide, the floodgates are opened. (particularly from the USA?)

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Re: The most bizarre engines ever?

Postby Bufferstop » Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:59 pm

I followed B308's suggestion "if you wan't weird look across the channel"
The steam monorail was exhibited at NEC when it was little more than a rolling chassis. I remember a two stroke powered system with V tippers and flat trucks used by the builders of a new block at our school. Lorries weren't allowed beyond the driveway when the school was open so they laid one of those monorails between the drive and the construction site. The tractor unit had a lever which engaged on a pin through the web of the rail when it got to the end of the line, disconnecting the drive and stopping the engine.
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Re: The most bizarre engines ever?

Postby Emettman » Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:37 pm

Bufferstop wrote:Lorries weren't allowed beyond the driveway when the school was open so they laid one of those monorails between the drive and the construction site. The tractor unit had a lever which engaged on a pin through the web of the rail when it got to the end of the line, disconnecting the drive and stopping the engine.


I've never had a chance to see one of these "scaffolding monorails" live, only read of and seen pictures.
But given the rail girders and their stands are standard components, casting them for one or other of the doll's house scales should be possible, with lineside trip-switch control just like several battery train systems...
No, I must not go there... though I might plan it mentally.

For UK weird engines there are always the early failures and curiosities such as Harrison's "Hurricane" or Brunton's Traveller (with legs).


And pressing against the terms set (no mention was made of "rails"...) this was unknown to me until an hour ago.
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Re: The most bizarre engines ever?

Postby JohnN » Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:51 pm

I can't find it on the web but in The History of Waterloo Station by John Fareham there is a picture from 1922 of an LSWR tank with a short coach grafted onto where the tender box should be. :shock:

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Re: The most bizarre engines ever?

Postby flying scotsman123 » Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:13 pm

JohnN wrote:I can't find it on the web but in The History of Waterloo Station by John Fareham there is a picture from 1922 of an LSWR tank with a short coach grafted onto where the tender box should be. :shock:


Here's a picture; it was called the bug!

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Amazingly, although it was scrapped in 1940, the coach section still survives, albeit in a rather dilapidated state.

There are some very odd looking locos here relating to some rather experimental chimney designs!
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Re: The most bizarre engines ever?

Postby JohnN » Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:22 pm

That's the one. :D

There certainly are some weird designs on that site. Interesting reading. Quite a few LSWR quirks by Beattie. :?

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Re: The most bizarre engines ever?

Postby Emettman » Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:11 pm

Ah, we can have the Lisbon Tramway's Sharp Stewart 1-1-2-1-1 locomotive, as it was tested in England!

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