P&BR Runaway

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P&BR Runaway

Postby dubdee1000 » Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:05 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-15784150

If you have the steepest preserved railway line in the country, ensure brakes are set to 'ON' when going home for the night. :wink:

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Re: P&BR Runaway

Postby CasperGriswoldBacon » Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:36 pm

DOH! I wonder how much that will cost them in damage. If you're gonna leave the brakes off a loco then you might as well go the whole hog and choose as something as big as a Class 37 :)

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Re: P&BR Runaway

Postby trainsandco » Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:46 pm

Must be student who's just finished there first driving lesson...get out and realises that they haven't put the handbrake on and chases after in frantic hope they can stop it :P

Seriously though, glad no-one was injured and that they can get there services back to normal :)

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Re: P&BR Runaway

Postby dubdee1000 » Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:02 pm

They're an alright bunch at the P&BR.

Things have been going quite well for them and they've had a lot of support from the Welsh assembly. Very soon, they hope to get the extension to Big Pit running for passengers.

I think this accident is actually no bad thing as it serves as a timely reminder to some of these volunteer groups as to the importance of good safety procedures. Not for one second am i saying that there is anything lacking at the P&BR, but sometimes 'stuff happens' and there are lessons to be learnt. In this case, whatever the stuff was that caused the runaway (it has been undergoing maintenance), we are to be thankful that it simply walloped the 31 and the industrial loco. No one was hurt aside from some bruised pride. It could have been a lot lot worse. Further *down* the line, a rail over road bridge has recently been lifted (now reinstated). The consequences of the 37 running away in these circumstances could have much more devastating.

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Re: P&BR Runaway

Postby trainsandco » Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:17 pm

Was it a 37 that also ran away with the 31 then?

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Re: P&BR Runaway

Postby kieranhardy » Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:36 pm

trainsandco wrote:Was it a 37 that also ran away with the 31 then?


The class 31 didn't run away at all.

The class 37 ran away pushing the Class 31 into the box van & shunter.

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Re: P&BR Runaway

Postby Class 60 » Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:51 am

The 37 was coupled to the 31 and was undergoing a shunting duty. Without wanting to speculate untill a full RAIB investigation is carried out....it seems someone didn't apply the parking brake (handbrake) on the 37, thus both the 37 and 31 rolling down the line and into the shunter and box van, derailing all that was involved.

The 31 has suffered considerable damage to the underframe, bogie and cab. Resulting in a drooped effect...Its unsure what the damage the 37 has suffered however they are awaiting specialist help to re-rail the 31 and 37.

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Re: P&BR Runaway

Postby D605Eagle » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:39 pm

dubdee1000 wrote:If you have the steepest preserved railway line in the country, ensure brakes are set to 'ON' when going home for the night. :wink:

i wasn't aware that the Foxfield railway had suffered a runaway.....

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Re: P&BR Runaway

Postby D605Eagle » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:44 pm

dubdee1000 wrote:They're an alright bunch at the P&BR.



I think this accident is actually no bad thing as it serves as a timely reminder to some of these volunteer groups as to the importance of good safety procedures....................... we are to be thankful that it simply walloped the 31 and the industrial loco. No one was hurt aside from some bruised pride.

You wouldn't say that if it was your class 31 thats now got a drooping nose. You spend a large some of money and countless hours restoring a loco and see how you'd feel if someone came along and said how good it was it was now trashed because its highlighted somebody has made a serious error, cause thats what your implying.

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Re: P&BR Runaway

Postby dubdee1000 » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:50 pm

Yup, that exactly what i'm saying.

To paraphrase the owner of the 31, "its made from metal, it can be rebuilt". Humans unfortunately, cannot.

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Re: P&BR Runaway

Postby dubdee1000 » Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:39 pm

From the Railway Herald:
http://www.rharchive.info/Issue292.pdf

The co-owner of the Class 31, Les Emery has three other locomotives based at the PBR. including Class 37s No.37219 which recently arrived from a spell with the Mid-Norfolk Railway and No. 3742I. which is currently being overhauled and will run in Regional Railways livery together with Class 73 No. 73128. Mr. Emery said that while being 'devastated‘ by the incident the really important issue that no injuries resulted. He added the initial inspection revealed damage to frame of the Class 31 beneath the cab, a possible cracked bogie and other damage that has resulted in the cab now having a pronounced ‘droop‘. However, despite the serious damage to No. D5627. it will not be scrapped, and will be repaired. "it is only metal”, he told RH, "and so if it was built from metal it can be rebuilt!

Sorry to labour the point, D605Eagle, but I'm sure you can understand my wish to get the quote correct for you.

I think you can take it from the above words of the owner of the locomotive that the most important aspect of this incident was that it was no injuries resulted, which is what I said.

Keep it in context.

D5627 is just a locomotive. It'll be insured, it can be repaired and the bent frame will be a visible reminder to all those who work on the P&BR (and other preserved lines), to never be complacent about health and safety. (which as i stated previously, is not something that i have ever said the P&BR have been). RAIB are investigating and will make the appropriate comments and recommendations as they see fit. As per previous, the rail over road bridge (B4246 Varteg Road), down the line from where this incident occurred has not long been reinstated, therefore there could have been much much more serious consequences to this. It could be easily argued that the damage to D5627 prevented a much more serious accident.


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