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Furness Railway No.25

Postby Matty-37688 » Sat May 07, 2011 1:55 pm

Hi everyone, Not sure if im putting this in the right section...but here goes.
I recently read on Wiki that there is another loco similiar to Furness Railway No.20 still in existence except this one No.25 is still unrebuilt and in saddle tank form without its tender as No 20 was when it worked down Brrow Docks. The article on says that the look was at Steamtown Carnforth but doesnt but doesnt say much else. I have searched the net for pics and info and have sadly found nothing, so does anyone know any info on this loco? :)

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Re: Furness Railway No.25

Postby Bufferstop » Sat May 07, 2011 3:29 pm

Most of the locos of this class went to the Barrow iron works, which although a separate company to the FR had substantially the same board members. The first four numbers 17 to 20 were sold on in 1870. They were relatively new engines but no longer able to handle the increasing traffic on the FR main line. three years later numbers 25 and 26 were also sold on. Numbers 27 and 28 remained for the rest of their lives (57 years in total) with FR. Once they were owned by the iron works their numbering was not well documented and there was subsequently mystery as to which was which. The last two remaining in service with the iron works carried the numbers 7 and 17. Number 7 went to the George Hastwell school in Barrow and 17 to a school in Ulverston. No 7 was believed to be FR no18 Sharp Stewart number1435. Number 17 to be FR no. 25 SS no.1585. All of this is documented in "The Great Survivor" by Tim Owen (ISBN 0-9529201-8-9) The last reference to FR25 being when both were removed to Carnforth by members of The Lakeside Railway Society. The dismantled number 7 believed to be FR no.18 was retrieved for the rebuild undertaken by the Furness Railway Trust. It was during the examination of components being refurbished that the true identity was discovered. The numbers 1448 were found on the slidebar bracket which had never been removed from the chassis. So No7 was really FR No.20.
The "rescuers" of number 17, FR No.25, SS No 1585, are long since gone. If like No20 it had been dismantled at Steamtown and again like No.20 the parts had been scattered around the site it is possible that it is still around in pieces. However some bits may well have been misidentified as parts of No.20 and used in the rebuild or become so decrepit that the site owners (unable to identify the parts) cleared them away with other scrap. The Carnforth site now being a busy maintenance and repair centre leaves little chance for anyone to go looking for the bits.
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Re: Furness Railway No.25

Postby kennyGWSR » Sat May 07, 2011 10:13 pm

it was in a railway magazine last year that 25 had been bought by owner of black five 45321 i think :? im not too sure though, but someone bought it...
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Re: Furness Railway No.25

Postby Bufferstop » Sat May 07, 2011 11:20 pm

kennyGWSR wrote:it was in a railway magazine last year that 25 had been bought by owner of black five 45321 i think :? im not too sure though, but someone bought it...

In one piece or as a collection of parts like No.20?
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Re: Furness Railway No.25

Postby kennyGWSR » Sat May 07, 2011 11:29 pm

Bufferstop wrote:
kennyGWSR wrote:it was in a railway magazine last year that 25 had been bought by owner of black five 45321 i think :? im not too sure though, but someone bought it...

In one piece or as a collection of parts like No.20?

im not sure, ill try to find the magazine...
there was a picture of it too, all in one piece...
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Re: Furness Railway No.25

Postby Matty-37688 » Sun May 08, 2011 2:16 am

Thanks gents :D! I hope you can find that mag :P

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Re: Furness Railway No.25

Postby kennyGWSR » Sun May 08, 2011 2:12 pm

http://www.nwemail.co.uk/news/1.267246
heres basically what i meant! just not the heritage railway article. ill try to find a photo. :)
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Re: Furness Railway No.25

Postby Matty-37688 » Sun May 08, 2011 3:07 pm

kennyGWSR wrote:http://www.nwemail.co.uk/news/1.267246
heres basically what i meant! just not the heritage railway article. ill try to find a photo. :)


Thanks Kenny! :D that article is a good few years old now so i wonder how she is at the moment... Be nice if she was based on L&HR and not some pres line down south where she has no ties to it. And a photo..that be great thanks again :D

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Re: Furness Railway No.25

Postby kennyGWSR » Sun May 08, 2011 3:13 pm

Matty-37688 wrote:
kennyGWSR wrote:http://www.nwemail.co.uk/news/1.267246
heres basically what i meant! just not the heritage railway article. ill try to find a photo. :)


Thanks Kenny! :D that article is a good few years old now so i wonder how she is at the moment... Be nice if she was based on L&HR and not some pres line down south where she has no ties to it. And a photo..that be great thanks again :D

well ive looked on the net but i cannot find it :( i will continue to search for the photo though :)
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Re: Furness Railway No.25

Postby K9-70 » Sun May 08, 2011 3:57 pm

kennyGWSR wrote:
Matty-37688 wrote:
kennyGWSR wrote:http://www.nwemail.co.uk/news/1.267246
heres basically what i meant! just not the heritage railway article. ill try to find a photo. :)


Thanks Kenny! :D that article is a good few years old now so i wonder how she is at the moment... Be nice if she was based on L&HR and not some pres line down south where she has no ties to it. And a photo..that be great thanks again :D

well ive looked on the net but i cannot find it :( i will continue to search for the photo though :)


Don't know how old the story in the link below is.
http://www.nwemail.co.uk/news/1.267246

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Re: Furness Railway No.25

Postby kennyGWSR » Sun May 08, 2011 4:11 pm

its basically the same link isnt it...
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Re: Furness Railway No.25

Postby Bufferstop » Sun May 08, 2011 6:10 pm

K9-70 wrote:Don't know how old the story is.
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Says "originally published 8 November 2008" at the foot of the text. Haven't heard much about it since then. If it was at Carnforth in one piece when they started work on No20, it's reasonable to assume it was in at least as bad or good a condition, not better. The logic being that unless you have a significantly better example, starting with the one that's dismantled saves a lot of work and time. The FR Trust had significant help in the form of access to one of the Barrow assembly shops, and a helpful staff who would do machining jobs for them in their own time. So don't hold your breath waiting for it.
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Re: Furness Railway No.25

Postby Matty-37688 » Mon May 09, 2011 5:05 pm

Thanks for all the input so far guys! :D I must admit i was rather shocked when i found there was another loco like 20 about, i knew about"Coppernob" down NRM and of course 20, which i saw during my child hood visits to the L&HR, which i visited the other week..and i must say its a shame to not see her there or infact the other trust locos. I just hope 25 gets based there as 3 miles is ideal for a loco of that size and age and plus its the locos orignal line (or there abouts) :lol:
My net searches havent found anything on 25 all turns back stuff on 20...

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Re: Furness Railway No.25

Postby Matty-37688 » Tue May 31, 2011 9:28 pm

Hate to be pushy here guys, But does anyone have any photos of this loco? current state/ past welcome :)

Thanks matt


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