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Good riddance to...

Postby wobblybob » Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:48 pm

Iain Croucher - the self-enriching chief executive of Network Rail is quitting. But not until this year's bonuses are announced and paid. :roll:

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Re: Good riddance to...

Postby PTmodeller » Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:18 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/busin ... 85231.html

Slag him off for whatever you want, but at least get things right.

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Re: Good riddance to...

Postby wobblybob » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:26 am

PTmodeller wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/network-rails-coucher-gives-up-bonus-1685231.html

Slag him off for whatever you want, but at least get things right.


PT - your link is to a May 2009 newspaper article. Times change and here's the more recent picture:

18 June 2010: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/busin ... 03528.html

4 June: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/busin ... 90982.html

3 June 2010: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/busin ... 90567.html

Paying someone - largely at taxpayers' expense - more than three times the Prime Minister's salary to run a railway that pretends trains reaching their final destination up to ten minutes late are 'on time' is not good value - for rail travellers or taxpayers.

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Re: Good riddance to...

Postby briantwigley » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:42 am

Nationalisation would be a good idea... :lol:

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Re: Good riddance to...

Postby joshing_man » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:43 pm

No it wouldn't :roll:

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Re: Good riddance to...

Postby wobblybob » Wed Jun 23, 2010 1:31 pm

We own it - Network Rail - already!

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Re: Good riddance to...

Postby briantwigley » Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:30 pm

Just give the whole lot back to the government, and take some advice from the way the Dutch run their railways :|

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Re: Good riddance to...

Postby 50035 Ark Royal » Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:50 pm

Well said but look who is in power :shock: It was the tories that wrecked the railways in the first place.Look at the Vacs as a case in point 1985 they had a secure future and withdrawls were not anticipated till 1997 at earliest.Then within 2 years it all went horribly wrong as sectorisation loomed.And i am not knocking NSE as if it weren't for this sector the 50's would have all gone by 88.No NSE and especially the mule was thier saviour.
Ryan is right however about the Dutch railways thier trains integrate with both buses and trams services on some lines up to 2 oclock in the morning and on buisier routes right through the night.Trains are fast, clean , frequent and punctunal.We could learn a lot from the Dutch on how to run our railways. On the minus side they are now favouring EMU'S rather than loco hauled so the hellfire 1700/1800 electrics days could be numbered :cry:
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Re: Good riddance to...

Postby Jack Middleton » Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:13 pm

Facepalm :(

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Re: Good riddance to...

Postby Honeywell » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:24 pm

I see your facepalm and raise you a ffs.

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Re: Good riddance to...

Postby b308 » Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:49 am

Let him dream! :wink:

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Re: Good riddance to...

Postby Splop. » Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:56 am

50035 Ark Royal wrote:Well said but look who is in power :shock: It was the tories that wrecked the railways in the first place.


Dr Beeching being a case in point.

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Re: Good riddance to...

Postby b308 » Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:15 pm

I do wonder sometimes why people seem to think that the Country would (or could) go on subsidising "businesses", whether they be cars, railways or even coal mines ad infinitum... Some people need to start living in the real world for a change... We've had 13 years of NL's dreamworld, now we have to pay the price, the 60s and 70s were no different. :roll:

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Re: Good riddance to...

Postby wobblybob » Sun Jun 27, 2010 5:46 pm

b308 wrote:I do wonder sometimes why people seem to think that the Country would (or could) go on subsidising "businesses", whether they be cars, railways or even coal mines ad infinitum... Some people need to start living in the real world for a change... We've had 13 years of NL's dreamworld, now we have to pay the price, the 60s and 70s were no different. :roll:


The subsidy culture is endemic across swathes of Britain's economy and has been for decades. Some sectors receive upfront state handouts - Network Rail and several TOCs are obvious examples. But there are many businesses that do very nicely from hidden subsidies. Many employees working for the big supermarket groups are paid only coppers above the minimum wage and thus are eligible for welfare benefits. Social security payments enable supermarkets to pay low wages and make huge profits. In effect a hidden subsidy. Likewise construction and civil engineering enjoy hidden subsidy from the many grandiose public works programmes developed under the horrendous public-private partnerships.

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Re: Good riddance to...

Postby ngresley » Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:40 pm

b308 wrote:I do wonder sometimes why people seem to think that the Country would (or could) go on subsidising "businesses", whether they be cars, railways or even coal mines ad infinitum... Some people need to start living in the real world for a change... We've had 13 years of NL's dreamworld, now we have to pay the price, the 60s and 70s were no different. :roll:


Good, let's stop subsidising the banks' debts (created by their own stupidity, greed, dishonesty and short-sightedness) for a start. What, the world economy would collapse if we didn't? Isn't that holding the country to ransom just like unions used to do? Oh I forgot, they're white collar workers and not members of those greedy and economy-wrecking unions...
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