What's the most UGLIEST train in the history ofthe universe?

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Re: What's the most UGLIEST train in the history ofthe universe?

Postby trainsandco » Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:15 pm

Valentascream wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

T&C, 47s rule!


*coff* ugly *coff*
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Re: What's the most UGLIEST train in the history ofthe universe?

Postby UrbanHermit » Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:51 am

A couple of late-ish comments on various things in this thread.

Personally I don't mind the Q1s. Odd but purposeful is how they strike me. Mind you, I can't help thinking that Bulleid (in his other designs as well as this one) must have had a bit of a penchant for doing things differently just for the hell of it. I mean, I see the sense of stripping down to the bare essentials (no running board or splashers) for light weight and austerity, but I have yet to see a logical explanation for the shape of the boiler cladding.

Apparently Stanier's first comment on seeing the Q1 was: "I don't believe it!" followed by: "Where's the key?"

Speaking of Stanier, the best evidence for who he thought was "the master" would seem to be his own designs. Precious little of Gresley's influence there; they were solidly based on Churchward's practice. "Master" here as in master and pupil. And he didn't "defect" to the LMS: quite the opposite. He was head-hunted, to use the modern expression.
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Re: What's the most UGLIEST train in the history ofthe universe?

Postby trainsandco » Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:00 pm

wasn't the Q1 stripped down to bare essentionals due to the war?
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Re: What's the most UGLIEST train in the history ofthe universe?

Postby SirMeliot » Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:07 pm

UrbanHermit wrote: but I have yet to see a logical explanation for the shape of the boiler cladding.

Ease of manufacture? It must be much simpler for Rosie The Rivetter to make three bits of 'U' shaped metal than roll a sheet around a tapered boiler.

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Re: What's the most UGLIEST train in the history ofthe universe?

Postby kieranhardy » Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:09 pm

trainsandco wrote:wasn't the Q1 stripped down to bare essentionals due to the war?


It was designed and constructed during wartime austerity.

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Re: What's the most UGLIEST train in the history ofthe universe?

Postby Bushey Troughs » Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:13 pm

kieranhardy wrote:
trainsandco wrote:wasn't the Q1 stripped down to bare essentionals due to the war?


It was designed and constructed during wartime austerity.

H. C. Casserley, "An Austerity design giving maximum tractive effort with minimum weight per axle. An exceedingly serviceable type which eliminated double heading, during the war years".
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Re: What's the most UGLIEST train in the history ofthe universe?

Postby Curler Guy » Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:45 am

Valentascream wrote:the 70 is beautiful LOL :P


Yeah man they are beautiful! they are just different and that is a beautiful thing!! Trains have feelings too you know, so leave of them, otherwise I'll chain myself to the railings in the park in protest at you hateful spiteful fascist, AND THEN YOU'LL BE SORRY MAN!! :lol:


I'll get me coat (and NO, it isn't so I can go out and hug the trees before you ask).

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Re: What's the most UGLIEST train in the history ofthe universe?

Postby trainsandco » Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:48 am

no!
Vegetables WRONG!!!
Meat Right!!!! :P

mmm......I could do with a nice big, juicy burger.....OOOO......lurverly!!!
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Re: What's the most UGLIEST train in the history ofthe universe?

Postby NickR » Sun Feb 07, 2010 3:23 am

I don't think anyone would deny that the Q1 was very efficient and effective - but that doesn't stop it being butt-ugly. :)

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Re: What's the most UGLIEST train in the history ofthe universe?

Postby Curler Guy » Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:36 pm

Better than being ugly and useless though.

That really WOULD be contemptible.
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Re: What's the most UGLIEST train in the history ofthe universe?

Postby Curler Guy » Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:39 pm

trainsandco wrote:no!
Vegetables WRONG!!!
Meat Right!!!! :P

mmm......I could do with a nice big, juicy burger.....OOOO......lurverly!!!


To all of you who are moaning that the Great Heck model is wrong. How many of you kill insects for no good reason, or eat meat, i.e. killing animals every day??

Funny how people have double standards, eh?

Doug, who also eats meat - but I'm not not the one dancing about saying the model is wrong.
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