Tornado to the rescue

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Tornado to the rescue

Postby Son-1 » Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:21 pm

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Re: Tornado to the rescue

Postby ste234 » Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:33 pm

Trust it to be a a Steamer to come to the rescue :lol:
No doubt the TOC's will be in some state of embarrasement :lol: :wink:
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Re: Tornado to the rescue

Postby beerandpies » Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:35 pm

That is utterly awesome :D
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Re: Tornado to the rescue

Postby Zunnan » Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:49 pm

I guess it was the right kind of snow for a steamer.

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Re: Tornado to the rescue

Postby thomas the plank engine » Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:18 am

Steam rules supreme. Says it all.

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Re: Tornado to the rescue

Postby PeterH » Thu Dec 24, 2009 1:12 pm

Excellent! Very kind of the operating company to come to the rescue of the passengers.
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Re: Tornado to the rescue

Postby Metrocamel » Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:05 pm

Great story! :)

When you think about it, steam was never truly inferior to diesel or electric power-wise. It was more the fact that steam engines take hours to get going instead of flicking a switch. With all the heat involved it's no wonder it could handle the snow.
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Re: Tornado to the rescue

Postby b308 » Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:46 pm

I like steam more than diesel or electric, but with all due respect, MC, thats a complete load of cobblers.

Apart from the length of time it takes to get it going from cold... the much larger workforce that is needed... both diesel and electric as a form of traction are FAR more efficient form of power than a conventional steam locomotive for use on railways...

Please don't get too carried away with your love of steam, eh! :mrgreen:

And if you care to look at photos of '47 and '63 you will see that steam was no better at handling snow than the other two... its just people in this country that can't handle the snow, not the traction! Perhaps because we don't see it enough?! :wink:

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Re: Tornado to the rescue

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Re: Tornado to the rescue

Postby son of triangman » Fri Jan 01, 2010 7:15 am

The main problems with steam were and still are, it is labour intensive so is very expensive in terms of wages, it is very hard & very dirty work, people to do the dirty work in the swinging sixties were getting hard to find, the young teen generation were more into peace, love and pop music, cars, bikes and more, coupled with coal prices going up steeply from the 1950's onwards steam could only go one way. Steamers are also very inefficient, take hours to prep and warm up properly, you have to allow all the different surfaces to expand as the loco warms up, making adjustments as the loco warms up, different metals expand at different rates when heated.

Even in the 1930's steam was an outdated technology, Gresley, Stannier, and others all looked at diesel and electric traction in the 1930's, O V S Bulleid Gresley's co-worker and best friend even went to Germany to look at their Flying Hamburger train in the 1930's and indeed travelled on it as the NE were considering diseasel and electric traction at the time.

However on the plus side superheated pressurised steam is a more powerful force than diesel or electric though.

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Re: Tornado to the rescue

Postby Bushey Troughs » Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:38 am

Stanier said "Electric traction is the only way forward". I still prefer Staniers kettles though......
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Re: Tornado to the rescue

Postby trainsandco » Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:12 pm

Brilliant, proof that the old ways are the best :P

I bet PedanticMongrel wouldn't really want to see this thread ;)

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Re: Tornado to the rescue

Postby cig1705 » Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:26 pm

Now why does that never happen when I'm returning from London by train?

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Re: Tornado to the rescue

Postby b308 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:47 pm

trainsandco wrote:Brilliant, proof that the old ways are the best :P


Only someone who has never had to work in an old style steam shed for a living back in the 50s and 60s (or before) could say something like that.

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Re: Tornado to the rescue

Postby class86 » Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:30 pm

trainsandco wrote:Brilliant, proof that the old ways are the best :P


I think what this has really demonstrated is that sophisticated modern technology doesn't have the resilience to cope with extremes of weather. Tornado doesn't have electronics to get frazzled by melting snow or electrical conductors to ice up. Many people say that the more technology you put into something, whether it is a car, plane or train, then the more that can go wrong and recent events have kinda proved that.


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