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DMU info required.

Postby TerryB » Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:21 pm

Hi all ....can anyone give me any info on the DMU units M79079 & M79632.
According to my 1963 Ian Allan Combine they were ....
"Metropolitan Cammel twin units, 79079 was a Motor Brake second unit and 79632 was a Driving Trailer Composite"

1. Are any of this class still in existence? ....... If so ...are they still in service or preserved.
2. If there are any preserved ....where are they?
3. Where would they have been in service in their "Green BR" days ...ie,the late steam era [1960-68]?
4. Were they given any other numbers by BR?

My reason for asking is that I've just bought a second-hand example of these ....
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Re: DMU info required.

Postby K9-70 » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:01 pm

Terry B wrote:

Hi all ....can anyone give me any info on the DMU units M79079 & M79632.
According to my 1963 Ian Allan Combine they were ....
"Metropolitan Cammel twin units, 79079 was a Motor Brake second unit and 79632 was a Driving Trailer Composite"

1. Are any of this class still in existence? ....... If so ...are they still in service or preserved.
2. If there are any preserved ....where are they?
3. Where would they have been in service in their "Green BR" days ...ie,the late steam era [1960-68]?
4. Were they given any other numbers by BR?


Hi Terry,
1&2 None preserved
3: Your examples M79079 & M79632 would have operated mainly on the Bury to Bacup service
4: No, they carried their original numbers to the end.

For more info, see link below.
http://www.railcar.co.uk/DLight/MCintro.htm

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Re: DMU info required.

Postby TerryB » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:27 pm

K9-70 wrote:For more info, see link below.
http://www.railcar.co.uk/DLight/MCintro.htm

K9-70


Hi K9-70 ....Superb website ....answers all my questions.
Thanks muchly ... :wink:
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Re: DMU info required.

Postby m8internet » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:59 pm

TerryB wrote:DMU units M79079 & M79632

What equivalent Class would this have become in BR TOPS, or were they withdrawn by 1985?
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Re: DMU info required.

Postby live-frog » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:16 pm

Hi Terry , how are you ? !!
I've not been able to link the numbers but they look very much like Metrocam Class 101s to me
Cheers
Ron

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Postby K9-70 » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:42 pm

m8internet wrote:
TerryB wrote:DMU units M79079 & M79632

What equivalent Class would this have become in BR TOPS, or were they withdrawn by 1985?


According to the Railcar website http://www.railcar.co.uk/DLight/MCintro.htm all the Met Camm twin units were withdrawn by 1969, so therefore would not have receive the TOPS code.

Two DMBS vehicles E79047 & 79053 survived until 1981 in departmental service.

live-frog wrote:Hi Terry , how are you ? !!
I've not been able to link the numbers but they look very much like Metrocam Class 101s to me
Cheers
Ron


Not quite a Class 101 Dmu, but almost.
Remove the bufferbeam skirt, along with the center and roof mounted headlights and you have a Class 101 Dmu.

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Postby TerryB » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:19 pm

live-frog wrote:Hi Terry , how are you ? !!
I've not been able to link the numbers but they look very much like Metrocam Class 101s to me
Ron


Hi Ron ....I'm fine & enjoying retirement matey ... :wink:
I've traced the numbers .... [via my old 1961 edition "Ian Allan Combine" .... :wink: ]
They're definitely Metro-Cam's .....it does seem that they're from a class of which non survived .....[judging by the numbers and K9-70's excellent link]
However .....I may look into the possibility of converting them to 101's [via a simples "renumber" .... :wink: ....just to keep my policy of running "preserved" locos/stock] ......It seems of the class 101's numbers 51434,51503,56356 & 59117 survived ....time for a little more research methinks .......although,as M79079 & M79632 it's quite feasible that they could have been seen in the regions represented on my layout .
:roll: After the headache of trying to trace these little beasties ....and trying to follow the non-sensical/pisspotical [ :roll: sp. :?: ] numbering system,I now recall why I lost interest in them some 45/50 years ago ....However,as they were part of the area/region/era I'm modelling .... :|

m8internet wrote:
TerryB wrote:DMU units M79079 & M79632

What equivalent Class would this have become in BR TOPS, or were they withdrawn by 1985?


It seems none were preserved [or even reached TOPS numbering ...FWIU,judging by K9-70's linky and "Live Frogs" advice ...] ....the nearest thing to them to survive was the 101's .... :|
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Postby SRman » Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:50 am

They are representative of early lightweight Met-Cam builds allocated to the Bury-Bacup and some East Anglian routes. There are two main give-aways: the cowling below the buffer beam (mentioned earlier) and the yellow diamond jumper connections on the cab front.

The later, heavier steel Met-Cam builds had a blue square multiple unit coupling code (in common with many later units). It was these units that lasted to the very end as class 101 (and earlier class 102 and 111, with Leyland and Rolls Royce mechanical bits). Original class 101 and lightweight units had AEC engines.

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Postby son of triangman » Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:12 am

Good purchase there TerryB, a nice bit of Tri-ang! Just picked up a lovely boxed Tri-ang-Hornby B12 in BR Black at Spalding toy and train fair, almost perfect, will be posting pics here for you all.

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Postby I'll_be_in_the_loft » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:51 pm

son of triangman wrote:Just picked up a lovely boxed Tri-ang-Hornby B12.............................


Please be careful, you'll probably break your back or something next. :o
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Postby ie 201 » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:54 pm

I'll_be_in_the_loft wrote:
son of triangman wrote:Just picked up a lovely boxed Tri-ang-Hornby B12.............................


Please be careful, you'll probably break your back or something next. :o

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Postby son of triangman » Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:47 am

Not with this one guys....lol...Was a bargain buy at £18.

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Postby SRman » Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:44 am

You did well, that really was a bargain. :D

That brings back memories. The B12 was my first large locomotive ever.

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Postby son of triangman » Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:44 am

They are indeed a nice loco SRman, was lucky to spot this one, the body just needed a clean, the smoke unit needed a smoke unit needed a fixing screw and the front bogie wasn't correct but for £18 it was a snip. The loco runs like silk. I have since fitted the smoke unit with the correct fixing screw, a correct replacement bogie off a scrapper, total cost of spares 20p, the scrapper that provided the bogie was free, it came in a box of junk I was given by a friend who was clearing their loft.

Fitted the box with a new window using original material and cleaned the inner tray, and touched in the box. Next job is a full chassis and motor clean and service and a nice replica strawboard box sleeve, then it's off to an auction house up near Lincoln. Total repair cost 87p.(excludes my time). Should make about £45-£50 retail according to the book, good undamaged ones with good transfers and linning are very hard to find today boxed so I wouldn't be suprised it will go for a lot more.

After some Tri-ang 101 class DMU's next and centre cars, seen a couple of mint centre cars and a nice boxed DMU so it's off for a haggle with a fellow dealer today.

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Postby Bushey Troughs » Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:05 pm

You mean one of these. R-334 DMU centre car. Mint in box and un-run, eBay bargain.

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eBay steal, R-758 two-tone green Hymek. Mint in box, I've another two of these.

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How about this for a rarity a boxed R-048 London Transport pannier tank.

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