Painting Bachmann Earl class locomotive
Painting Bachmann Earl class locomotive
Good afternoon!
One of the locomotives that I am presently thinking of buying is the marvellous Bachmann Earl class 4-4-0. Problem is, I cannot find a decently priced version of the model in GWR livery, which is the main basis of my branchline. ( and I cannot afford the Earl of Plymouth version that is due out shortly! )
This got me to thinking; I found a nicely priced early BR version of this model ( #31-088 ). After looking at it online, I got the impression that this could be brush painted in GWR Brunswick green ( which I have ), and GWR decal tranfers applied afterwards. Much of the engine would be left in black, anyhow. What I would like is feedback from anyone who may already have tried this, or just in general do you think this is a good idea to attempt or not?
By the way, the more I looked at the BR early version in black with the lion head, the more I liked it! So who knows? It would be the first BR loco on my layout, if this happened.
Thanks very much in advance for any suggestions / opinions you can give me.
Cheers!
Gordon
One of the locomotives that I am presently thinking of buying is the marvellous Bachmann Earl class 4-4-0. Problem is, I cannot find a decently priced version of the model in GWR livery, which is the main basis of my branchline. ( and I cannot afford the Earl of Plymouth version that is due out shortly! )
This got me to thinking; I found a nicely priced early BR version of this model ( #31-088 ). After looking at it online, I got the impression that this could be brush painted in GWR Brunswick green ( which I have ), and GWR decal tranfers applied afterwards. Much of the engine would be left in black, anyhow. What I would like is feedback from anyone who may already have tried this, or just in general do you think this is a good idea to attempt or not?
By the way, the more I looked at the BR early version in black with the lion head, the more I liked it! So who knows? It would be the first BR loco on my layout, if this happened.
Thanks very much in advance for any suggestions / opinions you can give me.
Cheers!
Gordon
Re: Painting Bachmann Earl class locomotive
Gordon, It is all down to your confidence in applying the paint well enough to obtain a result that pleases you. Practice on 'any old thing' of a steam loco to get a feel for what can be achieved strongly suggested (and it has to be a steam loco in my opinion because it is getting around the tricky areas that really matters).
My opinion, on a model like this you have to strip down the body to get a good result. Take the boiler and cab unit off the footplate, remove applied detail like glazing and handrails, before putting green paint anywhere near it. That means you will have unfettered access to apply the paint, no concerns about smears on glazing or the paint puddling by capillary attraction around handrail stanchions and the like.
That's written from the perspective of someone who can 'do black' but has reached the stage of being far happier buying green locos in the fine finish typical on current RTR. (Unless its going to be a neglected V2, that I can do.)
My opinion, on a model like this you have to strip down the body to get a good result. Take the boiler and cab unit off the footplate, remove applied detail like glazing and handrails, before putting green paint anywhere near it. That means you will have unfettered access to apply the paint, no concerns about smears on glazing or the paint puddling by capillary attraction around handrail stanchions and the like.
That's written from the perspective of someone who can 'do black' but has reached the stage of being far happier buying green locos in the fine finish typical on current RTR. (Unless its going to be a neglected V2, that I can do.)
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Re: Painting Bachmann Earl class locomotive
If you feel confident enough to have a go, why not.
If you aren't going to spray it and are going to brush paint it, I would strongly suggest
using Railmatch paints. After first giving it an undercoat, 2 coats of Railmatch would
give a really good finish and if applied well it doesn't leave brush marks and gives a nice
satin finish.
I have painted a few locos this way and been very happy with the results.
Jim.
ps. Grey car spray primer gives a nice thin undercoat.
If you aren't going to spray it and are going to brush paint it, I would strongly suggest
using Railmatch paints. After first giving it an undercoat, 2 coats of Railmatch would
give a really good finish and if applied well it doesn't leave brush marks and gives a nice
satin finish.
I have painted a few locos this way and been very happy with the results.
Jim.
ps. Grey car spray primer gives a nice thin undercoat.
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Re: Painting Bachmann Earl class locomotive
Gordon,
It might just be worth a call/email to Bachmann to see if they have any loco and tender bodies on the shelf. They get the odd faulty model back so there might be a chance.
Jim
It might just be worth a call/email to Bachmann to see if they have any loco and tender bodies on the shelf. They get the odd faulty model back so there might be a chance.
Jim
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Re: Painting Bachmann Earl class locomotive
Are you watching this eBay item?
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Re: Painting Bachmann Earl class locomotive
I don’t even know if he’s watching this site. Gordon has posted elsewhere also and had a good number of answers but without any form of acknowledgement. It is disappointing when people ask for assistance, receive it and then fail to respond.
Tony
Tony
Men with false teeth may yet speak the truth.......
Re: Painting Bachmann Earl class locomotive
Tony,Lysander wrote:I don’t even know if he’s watching this site. Gordon has posted elsewhere also and had a good number of answers but without any form of acknowledgement. It is disappointing when people ask for assistance, receive it and then fail to respond.
Tony
my pet complaint of many who post these days. I post on one forum only and on the majority of occasions if some one shows me the courtesy of a response then I respond to acknowledge their post. If they take their time to respond to me then I feel it a responsibility on me to return their gesture.
The issue these days is forum etiquette with newcomers posting on just about every forum the same questions and even if they find an answer either offering no response or if finding a forum they have not posted on they post the same questions there. Times are I feel like revisiting my answer and deleting it. Worst offenders are opportunists who join a forum to sell an item found or inherited. The guise is to ask a potential value of an item or to offer it to members. It is simple enough to gauge a value by visiting a site such as eBay. After the initial posting one never hears from them again.
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I guess there may be a reason for the deafening silence - illness, or a holiday perhaps - but I felt it was just another one of those who use but do not contribute. I went to the trouble of posting a photograph and advising on paint and methods of application in another place in answer to this question. OK, so it took maybe 15 minutes of my time and no big deal at that. That's not the point though. It is, as you say, a matter of good manners.
Tony
Tony
Men with false teeth may yet speak the truth.......
Re: Painting Bachmann Earl class locomotive
The other thing to consider is the rest of us looking at the thread still read/enjoy/learn from your replies so it's not always a waste.
I have also lost count of the number of times i have been googling something only to get redirected back here by a result - its the main reason i registered here because i found myself coming back again and again via google searches
That being said its only polite to reply to those who put in the time/effort to answer queries.
I have also lost count of the number of times i have been googling something only to get redirected back here by a result - its the main reason i registered here because i found myself coming back again and again via google searches
That being said its only polite to reply to those who put in the time/effort to answer queries.
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Re: Painting Bachmann Earl class locomotive
Well you know what Jilted John had to say about Gordon!
(see if that provokes a response )
(see if that provokes a response )
This Signature Left Intentionally Blank, but since I have written this and I intended to do it, this Signature is intentionally not blank. Paradox or What?
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Damn it Jim, I was just thinking of that song when I saw somebody had posted on this thread!!!!
Re: Painting Bachmann Earl class locomotive
Thanks to the many posters who have taken the time to offer me good advice on my queries. I have been remiss in not acknowledging them more often. These dialogues are so valuable in the enjoyment of this wonderful hobby. Again, thank you for your time and patience.
Sincerely, Gordon
Sincerely, Gordon