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Bachmann new announcements for 2018

Postby Bigmet » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:50 am

Relatively thin compared to the past. The genuinely new stuff is Bulleid coaches (should give much joy if to the same standard as the recent Thompsons), and a WWI 'warflat' bogie design coded Parrot (confusingly there was a very different WD requirement bogie wagon in WWII also coded 'Parrot').

The rest is reworking of previous models (the Blue Pullman as seen operating on WR, the other LBSCR atlantic, H1, to supplement the H2, a variant on the ROD 2-8-0, the C1 atlantic tooled for the NRM to join the main range, variations of the Derby Sulzer 2, (class 25) some of the 170/171 group of DMU's (already in the range for some years, but possibly some of these need new toolings to cover the variations, I wouldn't have a clue); and re-announcements of modesl that have already been announced but have to be announced again because they have changed their earlier announcement's plans somewhat, the J72 and V2. (I should think that in 2019 the J39 which has been announced for renewal some years will be re-announced as all new because plans for that have now changed from what was previously announced.) It's very railway isn't it? Every announcement has an echo, echo, echo...

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Re: Bachmann new announcements for 2018

Postby b308 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:10 am

Bigmet wrote:Relatively thin compared to the past.


Depends on what you model, I suppose, for OO9 modellers it's far from "thin"!! A Quarry Hunslet and Ashover Coaches is far from that!! :)

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Re: Bachmann new announcements for 2018

Postby Pennine MC » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:59 am

Bigmet wrote:The rest is reworking of previous models ... variations of the Derby Sulzer 2, (class 25)


As I read it, the new 25s will be new body tooling at least (can't really fault the current chassis for running, unless it's necessary to rework it to produce a proper three-dimensional underframe); and following the precedent of the (in development) late 24.

(I should think that in 2019 the J39 which has been announced for renewal some years will be re-announced as all new because plans for that have now changed from what was previously announced.) ..


I'd be pleased, and not too surprised; I think the mention of different tenders with the 'new new' V2 points that way. Maybe even a J38 derivative...

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Re: Bachmann new announcements for 2018

Postby D605Eagle » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:42 pm

A J38 has been on and off the books ever since the J39 arrived! I guess if the J36 from Hornby does well it might give Bachmann the impetus to do what was effectively a scottish only loco in the J38.

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Re: Bachmann new announcements for 2018

Postby Bigmet » Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:10 pm

b308 wrote:...for OO9 modellers it's far from "thin"!! A Quarry Hunslet and Ashover Coaches is far from that!! :)

Ah, but there's a special place for that, the little box called NG ;-)

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Re: Bachmann new announcements for 2018

Postby b308 » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:27 am

Less of the "little boxes" ours are bigger than N gauge ones!! :) :)

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Re: Bachmann new announcements for 2018

Postby luckymucklebackit » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:15 am

D605Eagle wrote:A J38 has been on and off the books ever since the J39 arrived! I guess if the J36 from Hornby does well it might give Bachmann the impetus to do what was effectively a scottish only loco in the J38.


Not sure how easy it would be to modify a J39 to a J38, the J38 had smaller wheels, 4ft 8in compared with 5ft 2in, so 2mm smaller in 00. (From th eLNER Encyclopedia) The J39s also had a modified boiler (Diagram 97). From December 1932, spare Diagram 97 boilers became available and were often used on the J38s instead of their original Diagram 97A boilers. Conversions became more common after 1942 when the scrapping of the original Diagram 97A boilers started. The locomotives with the newer Diagram 97 boilers were referred to as J38/2, whilst those with the older Diagram 97A boilers were referred to as J38/1.

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Re: Bachmann new announcements for 2018

Postby Bigmet » Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:14 pm

It would not be unimaginable though to design tooling for both J38 and J39, if the loco body of the J39 were thought to need renewal. Bachmann's usual modular style of steam loco body construction lends itself to alternative parts for differences like the splasher free J38 footplate (which could include the 1mm different height locations to accomodate the different wheel diameters while keeping overall height correct) and designing the mechanism to take alternative keeper plates with the usual attached detail like brake fit, positioned for 4'8" and 5'2" wheels.

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Re: Bachmann new announcements for 2018

Postby Lancastrian » Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:43 pm

I am pleased with and interested in the proposed new 009 models. :D
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Re: Bachmann new announcements for 2018

Postby sir hayden » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:08 am

The 009 stuff is what has me excited as heck, it's given me the push to make my narrow gauge layout now.

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Re: Bachmann new announcements for 2018

Postby b308 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:13 am

Reading the comments on NGRM I doubt you'll see the new locos until the end of 2018/beginning of 2019 at the earliest!

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Re: Bachmann new announcements for 2018

Postby Bigmet » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:47 am

That's optimistic! If we are to take the past few years' performance as a guide, then three years from announcement to availability on locos and rolling stock would be the best progress we have seen, and unfotunately often slower than that.

Bachmann have just fiddled with their website - previously the best in terms of ease of use from any of the RTR manufacturers - and made it into an unintelligible mess in the same style as the others. (I blame the young!) So no way of telling how long it is since announcement of the OO9 4-6-0T and wagons to them going on sale (are they available?) but my recollection is that it wasn't that rapid. Four years would be my guess, any better informed offers from those who were actually looking to buy these items and followed progress?

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Re: Bachmann new announcements for 2018

Postby b308 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:54 am

The wagons are on sale now and the loco is expected any time now... I was bearing in mind the current dates when I suggested the dates for the new stuff, it seems the Hunslet has passed the "investigation" stage (collating drawings, photos, etc.) and is now at the stage where they are doing the design stage, so early to mid 2019 seems about right... I suspect the Ashover coaches may come out earlier as they are easier to do...

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Re: Bachmann new announcements for 2018

Postby Bigmet » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:22 am

Anything's possible, limited only by the time that it actually takes to do the work, which is somewhere around nine months for a loco on the 'express track' with all the research available and no problems along the way: so the item then goes through drawing office, tooling, first prototype, test assembly and livery approval, manufacturing run. The achieved timing - usually much longer - comes down to the allocation of resource that Bachmann decide on.

There's something of a current example. Possibly because it only makes sense to manufacture them together in a production run, Bachmann appear to have been developing the LB&SCR H1 atlantic - of which there was not a hint before this announcement - for it to be produced at the same time as the LB&SCR H2 atlantic which is expected during 2018.

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Re: Bachmann new announcements for 2018

Postby Byegad » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:46 am

The N gauge offering gives me little inspiration too!

I'm still waiting for a J72 to appear, it was first mooted for 2015/16!


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