High Peak Junction N Gauge

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High Peak Junction N Gauge

Postby LukeB » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:19 am

I moved house in September last year, from a proper house in Derbyshire to a tiny 25m square flat in Edinburgh. As a result Newtonmore, my 8ft long N gauge layout is in a storage unit until we find somewhere to buy. My wife and I have started setting aside Monday evenings to just chill out in the flat doing our hobbies, so I've started a new layout which is much smaller.

Loosely based on the Wharf Shed at High Peak Junction in Derbyshire that I used to cycle past on my way to work, the layout is an inglenook with two short storage sidings that will be behind a backscene. It's built on half a wallpaper pasting table so the scene is much compressed. I've got it to the point where it's wired up (DC), the track in the foreground is set in stone while the storage yards are likely to get rejigged a bit.

It's unlikely that I'll keep the High Peak Junction name - it's so compressed and jigged about that it's not the same at all. Also, where the track goes off-scene is, in real life, an enormously steep hill that rolling stock was winched up. If I come up with something I'll post it up.

ImageIMG_20190121_194050 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

The grey areas are the yard and towpaths. I covered the yard in scalescenes cobble sheets last night. The hatched area will be cut out to form the canal. The area above the yard will be a retaining wall with vegetation and trees, and there will be trees in the area in the bottom left.

The buildings and retaining walls are Scalescenes. They're nice looking kits once they're done but so far these three buildings have taken me three months' of Monday evenings- the crossing keeper's cottage in particular is a real pain. Fortunately, it seems the retaining wall kit will be quicker to build since there's a couple of feet of it, ditto the canal walls.

Here's the Wharf Shed in real life today, it's not an accommodation centre.

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Here's my Scalescenes lightly kitbashed version.

ImageIMG_20190121_194111 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr
ImageIMG_20190121_194059 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

The next job is to start the retaining wall and cut out the canal. Which probably won't be done on a Monday evening when my wife is trying to relax 6 feet away!
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Re: High Peak Junction N Gauge

Postby glencairn » Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:22 pm

A great idea, whilst looking for a new house.

The picture of Wharf Shed is the only one showing. Would like to see the others of your model (if possible)?

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Re: High Peak Junction N Gauge

Postby End2end » Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:24 pm

glencairn wrote:Would like to see the others of your model (if possible)?

They are there glencairn. Try refreshing the page. I saw them and now I don't but I think it's just a forum anomaly. :wink:
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Re: High Peak Junction N Gauge

Postby glencairn » Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:40 pm

End2end wrote:
glencairn wrote:Would like to see the others of your model (if possible)?

They are there glencairn. Try refreshing the page. I saw them and now I don't but I think it's just a forum anomaly. :wink:
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Not there. :(

I'll try another way.

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Re: High Peak Junction N Gauge

Postby LukeB » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:54 pm

The photos should be fixed now.

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Re: High Peak Junction N Gauge

Postby glencairn » Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:05 pm

Success! Thanks LukeB.

Great looking shed. Well done.

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Re: High Peak Junction N Gauge

Postby LukeB » Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:17 am

Thanks very much everyone.

Here's a map showing the railway and canal as they were. Arkright's Mill is shown in red, the newer Masson Mills in blue and the sidings I'm modelling in orange, with the canal in blue alongside it. This bit of the railway didn't serve the mills but limestone quarries up the hill. Scaled correctly the layout would be almost twice as long as it is but it's meant to be a bit of fun, rather than totally accurate.

ImageUntitled by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

This Monday was wiped out by a solicitor's meeting for a new house (which may mean I can get my static grass applicator on the case for landscaping if we get moved in and unpacked at the right time! I was planning on using scatters because I don't have all my gear in the flat) but on Tuesday I finished off the tunnel mouth that leads off-scene.

ImageLRM_EXPORT_476105092980653_20190131_083954082 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

ImageLRM_EXPORT_476096085618297_20190131_083945074 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

I also had a test run of the GWR Pannier I bought myself with some money from Christmas. My other layout is so explicitly Scottish that I've never had an excuse to buy one of these, but as this layout is a bit vaguer I decided I can run what I want. To emphasise that point, here it is hauling some Harburn Hobbies wagons :D

ImageLRM_EXPORT_476100027850252_20190131_083949017 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

ImageLRM_EXPORT_476091935820384_20190131_083940924 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

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Re: High Peak Junction N Gauge

Postby glencairn » Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:21 am

Excellent work, Luke. I like the Scottish touch. :lol:

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Re: High Peak Junction N Gauge

Postby Ex-Pat » Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:11 am

Am following this with interest as it takes me back to the 1970's when I walked the route from Cromford to Whaley Bridge. Also way back in the 50's/60's a trip to Derby Works and Shed would guarantee sight of a Cromford & High Peak dedicated saddle tank.

Put an incline in and you could re-create the "flying brake van"! See:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cromford_ ... ak_Railway (penultimate paragraph in "Operation" chapter)

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Re: High Peak Junction N Gauge

Postby joshv8 » Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:56 pm

Watching with much interest. Absolutely fascinating the detail achieved in N gauge locos and wagons now, stunning.

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Re: High Peak Junction N Gauge

Postby LukeB » Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:22 am

I started modelling the canal last night. We are moving into a new house at the start of April. The base of the canal will be made from the top of the other half of the wallpaper pasting table the layout is made of. I didn't really want to put half an unusable pasting table in the mover's van so thought I'd better get going!

Before that I got a little bit of time on Sunday to finish off the administrative building at the right hand end of the layout. This is a Scalescenes crossing keeper's cottage and it's taken ages. In hindsight, I should have started this kit after I'd practiced on the goods shed and retaining walls. It's quite a complicated kit to build in N gauge - I'm not sure its translation from a OO gauge kit to N gauge is entirely successful. That combined with my skills means it's a bit shoddy up close. However, as it took nigh on a total of 8 hours to build I'll not be doing it again!

ImageIMG_20190203_174637 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

To model the canal, I started by cutting out the route of the canal from the baseboard. To make this easier and neater, and less messy since it was in my living room, I used a stanley knife. Around twenty passes on each side managed to cut through it.

ImageIMG_20190204_200118 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

ImageIMG_20190204_200643 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

Then I filed down the edges so it'll take the paper covering I'll be using better. The plan is to wrap these edges in dock wall tops from Scalescenes. Beneath this will be a layer of hardboard in line with the edge of the canal to produce canal walls, wrapped in stone sheets. Then a painted board will go at the bottom to form the base of the canal. I am, however, pondering leaving out the walls as, at about 3mm thick, two layers of hardboard would mean that the canal top will be almost 3 feet from the towpath, which is too much.

ImageIMG_20190204_200930 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

The base of the canal came from the other half of the pasting table used as a base board. Using the piece I'd cut out of the other board as a template, I made a base around 1" wider than the canal which can then be glued in place under the baseboard.

ImageIMG_20190204_201628 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

ImageIMG_20190204_202853 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

Removing the canal from the top made the board very flexible, so I added some support that I should have put in months ago!

ImageIMG_20190204_205721 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

And that's as far as I got this week. I'm hoping to paint the canal bottom next week - has anyone got any tips for what colours I should be using? It looks from real photos like black and very dark brown will do. I'll be creating the water using Chris Nevard's method with PVA (there's not really time or a suitable space for a varnish base. Given we only have a living room and a bedroom the smell of varnish will be unbearable).

http://nevardmedia.blogspot.com/2012/06/pva-water-allan-downes-way.html

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Re: High Peak Junction N Gauge

Postby joshv8 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:40 am

I probably wouldnt use black, dark brown should be ok but the trick seems to be to use a lighter tone blended along the edges to give the effect of shallower water along the edge of the creek bed.

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Re: High Peak Junction N Gauge

Postby End2end » Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:04 pm

LukeB wrote:has anyone got any tips for what colours I should be using?

Why not look at the real thing?. Google earth is useful if you can't get out to a canal.
As quoted from the site you linked to - "As always look at the real thing to copy, do not rely on imagination."
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Re: High Peak Junction N Gauge

Postby heda » Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:29 pm

I used a mix of dark (jungle( green and brown acrylic for the base, it took a couple of attempts before I was happy with the colour. Then for the water effect I used Wilkinson acrylic clear gloss varnish, been acrylic there is no problem with odour, it was applied in three or four coats, rather than brush it on I dabbed it on with a brush so there was a layer, not to thick though or it will crack as it dries out.
Hope this helps.
As a fellow N gauger I'm following this thread with interest.
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Re: High Peak Junction N Gauge

Postby LukeB » Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:54 pm

I cycle along the Union Canal for 10 miles to get to work and (when it's been light enough) I've pondered this, based on Mr Nevard's advice. To me, under grey Edinburgh skies, it always looks black, which is why I thought of black as a base layer. Though today it looks a murky browny-green, partly because all the ice on it has melted. I'll keep my eye out next time I ride in.


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