Steam Trains to Sovereign Street on a 1914/1919 theme

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Re: Steam Trains to Sovereign Street on a 1914/1919 theme

Postby hicklingmick » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:20 pm

Yeah the calls was a very poor area.

this is ideal for looking at old areas https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by ... ht=BingHyb

There is always this site for any enquiries about hidden Leeds areas or anything leeds https://www.secretleeds.com/

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Postby glencairn » Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:50 am

Thanks for the information, hicklingmick. It is 45 years since I left Yorkshire and the memory is tending to fade a little. :( :)

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Postby hicklingmick » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:13 pm

I left Leeds for Norfolk in 1984 and maybe go back once a yr and really south of the river has changed that much its easy to lose ones bearings but cross the river and nothing much changed until you hit the ring road then you notice all the new estates etc.

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Postby glencairn » Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:33 pm

A train from the north. A LSWR goods train heading for LNWR Goods Yard.

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At the level crossing.

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Re: Steam Trains to Sovereign Street on a 1914/1919 theme

Postby glencairn » Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:14 pm

Calder Railway locomotive 'Huxtable' with the railgun KF1 passing Crown Point Junction
The railgun is rather heavy, but the little 0.4.0 handles it with ease.

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After being in the paintshop. The gun now in 'fifty shades of green'.

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Re: Steam Trains to Sovereign Street on a 1914/1919 theme

Postby glencairn » Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:03 pm

A (new) short history of Sovereign Street.


The Calder Railway Line To Leeds


The Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway saw the Light Railways Act of 1896 as an opportunity as a way to build a line to York.

With the support of the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway and Great Northern Railway, the newly formed Calder Railway Company proposed a bill to Parliament for a line from Earlsheaton (Number 23) (on the GNR Dewsbury Loop line) to Lofthouse and Outwood Station, via Chickenley (Number 24) East.

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In the same Bill, two new curves to be built. The first from the Lancashire Yorkshire Market Place Branch Line to the GNR Headfield Branch Line. The second curve to be from the Headfield Branch to the Dewsbury Loop Line eastwards towards Earlsheaton.

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Those two curves allowed Calder Railway to run from Dewsbury Market Place Station to Earlsheaton, then eventually to Leeds

North of Lofthouse the Calder Railway would use the grandly named East and West Yorkshire Union Railway and South Leeds Junction Railway line to Stourton.

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The E&WYUR/SLJR were effectively the same Company, but were in financial difficulties. Allowing the Calder Railway running rights brought much needed capital to their coffers.

A further proposal of a Light Railway from Stourton to Leeds Sovereign Street passing Balm Road and Crown Point was made. A Goods Yard to be at Crown Point.

The Midland Railway was wary of the threat of the interloper and opposed the Bill. The Calder Railway successfully fought the appeal and the line was built.

The line to Sovereign Street was fully opened in 1902.

The Lancashire & Yorkshire Railway now had their own line into Leeds.


The Leeds, Scarcroft & Wetherby Railway

At the same time with the backing of the Lancashire & Yorkshire Railway, the Leeds, Scarcroft & Wetherby Railway Company put a proposal to Parliament for a Light Railway from the proposed Sovereign Street Station to Wetherby with stations at Burmantofts, Oakwood, Roundhay, Shadwell, Scarcroft, Bardsey, East Keswick, Collingham arriving at Wetherby NER Station. Blackburn's Aircraft Factory near Oakwood also backed the plan.

A Light Railway Branch Line was proposed in 1899 from Burmantofts to Seacroft with stations at Torre, Gipton, South Parkway arriving at Seacroft.

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The line to Wetherby was completed in 1910 and 1912 to Seacroft.

As all the lines were built to main line standards (though run as Light Railways) in 1909 a Bill went to Parliament to join the line from Sovereign Street to the Leeds Central Station. The short line was completed in 1913.

The Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway had reached Wetherby. Their next proposal was put to Parliament in 1910 to extend the line from Wetherby to Copmanthorpe; just before York.
The North Eastern Railway opposed the plan, but before any final outcome could be reached War intervened.

Kirkstall & East Seacroft Railway

With the building of Barnbow Number 1 Munitions Factory in progress, the line from Seacroft was extended to Barnbow. A new Company, Kirkstall & East Seacroft Railway was formed. They were to run materials etc. from Kirkstall Forge (near Central Station) to Barnbow.
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Re: Steam Trains to Sovereign Street on a 1914/1919 theme

Postby Ex-Pat » Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:08 pm

Most interesting - I see East Keswick is one heck of a way from Keswick!

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Re: Steam Trains to Sovereign Street on a 1914/1919 theme

Postby glencairn » Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:57 pm

Ex-Pat wrote:- I see East Keswick is one heck of a way from Keswick!


A long way away. :lol: And very expensive to live there.
A pint or two in the 'Old Star' or the 'Duke of Wellington'should be had if visiting. :)

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Re: Steam Trains to Sovereign Street on a 1914/1919 theme

Postby glencairn » Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:25 pm

Some new wagons have joined the 'fleet''

Douglas and Graham are family names. We used to live in the Border Region and I would often walk part of the old Border Railway line' . A couple of wagons with the family name, The D. Jenkinson wagon ( of Marthwaite layout fame) is the in honour of him starting me to making my own wagon names. (Thanks David)

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A stalwart on the line. 'Leefy''.

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Re: Steam Trains to Sovereign Street on a 1914/1919 theme

Postby glencairn » Fri May 01, 2020 8:01 pm

Time to run some steam engines.

Kirkstall & East Seacroft Railway engine 'Thor' with a passenger train arriving at Sovereign Street Station

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Calder Railway locomotive 'Bezel' collecting wagons from Clarence Dock.

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Re: Steam Trains to Sovereign Street on a 1914/1919 theme

Postby Lancastrian » Fri May 01, 2020 8:24 pm

Great photographs and as you might expect I picked up on the working boat in the canal/river.
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Re: Steam Trains to Sovereign Street on a 1914/1919 theme

Postby glencairn » Fri May 01, 2020 8:27 pm

Thanks once again, Lancastrian. I shall have to put some 'crew' on board. :)

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Re: Steam Trains to Sovereign Street on a 1914/1919 theme

Postby Mountain » Fri May 01, 2020 10:19 pm

Those little locos add atmosphere to the layout.

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Re: Steam Trains to Sovereign Street on a 1914/1919 theme

Postby glencairn » Sat May 02, 2020 10:45 am

Thanks, Mountain. I originally started with five 0.4.0 locomotives and built Sovereign Street to run them. Then I wanted a reason as to where they were running and why. Then as the phrase goes, like Topsy it just growed'. :D

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Re: Steam Trains to Sovereign Street on a 1914/1919 theme

Postby glencairn » Sat May 02, 2020 10:59 am

A Kirkstall & East Seacroft Railway goods train on its way (from Kirkstall Forge) to Barnbow.

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