6 x 4ft layout - Split down the middle!

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Re: 6 x 4ft layout - Split down the middle!

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It is frustrating with less room, we could have probably got more sidings in on the front board but chose not to as we'd like to give the layout some 'meaningful' scenery that fits and didn't want to cramp it out.
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Yup that's exactly what I meant. :)
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Re: 6 x 4ft layout - Split down the middle!

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Decided to cut back a section of the tunnel box and it looks much more natural..

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Re: 6 x 4ft layout - Split down the middle!

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Wow doesn't time fly. As of the last 6 months the layout has been stored in the loft until this fine Sunday. With any luck some more progress shall be made this week under the lights of the kitchen whilst all of the family are away.

I'm please to say that despite the varying temperatures of late, the baseboards still align perfectly. I suppose I wasn't expecting it to go quite so well with such a layout. Unfortunately however, upon reconstructing and transporting the layout, I've managed to break one of the rails at the joins clean from the sleepers where the fishplate extends over the edge of the baseboard!
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This has got me thinking, I had better get the matter of baseboard (track) joins perfect sooner rather than later. The original intention was to have the corner sections pinned on the main scenic board and joined to the bare board at the back with standard fishplates. These corners on the "bare" board are simply laid on the board temporarily, with only the straight sections of track pinned on the "bare board". Whilst this works well in layout operation by ensuring a good physical join between the tracks with fishplates. This creates issues when transporting as demonstrated.

I could replace the broken section(s) of track and remove the fishplates from the pinned down section in the hope that this would prevent them from catching. I've briefly investigated soldering the rails to brass screws on the board. Can anyone share their successes of this method?
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To cure the issue of the rail coming away, while in the past I've used glue, the ideal solution comes from using a few commerclad sleepers (I use strips of PCB). It only needs a few. The rest can be kept as being plastic sleepers. (See photo below. This is my track for "Behind the scenes" use. Only a few sleepers need to be used with the PCB type, as they hold the rails firmly in place, though this method does not allow for expansion). Be aware one does need card to slot under the sleeper to solder it as PCB type sleepers are thinner then plastic ones. Also the copper surface needs cutting so one does not have a short circuit between one sleeper and the next.
If you dont want to use solder and PCB type sleepers to repair, a decent glue will do. The main issue is where the rail could not sit right as broken rail chairs could raise the height of the rail so be aware of this.
The most common way is to simply replace the piece of track, but for me, I always find a new use for old track if I can! Has many uses... :)
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Mountain wrote:To cure the issue of the rail coming away, while in the past I've used glue, the ideal solution comes from using a few commerclad sleepers (I use strips of PCB). It only needs a few. The rest can be kept as being plastic sleepers. (See photo below. This is my track for "Behind the scenes" use. Only a few sleepers need to be used with the PCB type, as they hold the rails firmly in place, though this method does not allow for expansion). Be aware one does need card to slot under the sleeper to solder it as PCB type sleepers are thinner then plastic ones. Also the copper surface needs cutting so one does not have a short circuit between one sleeper and the next.
If you dont want to use solder and PCB type sleepers to repair, a decent glue will do. The main issue is where the rail could not sit right as broken rail chairs could raise the height of the rail so be aware of this.
The most common way is to simply replace the piece of track, but for me, I always find a new use for old track if I can! Has many uses... :)
Brilliant stuff I might have to give this a go. For now I have removed the broken section and overhanging fishplates which should hopefully prevent it catching in the short term.
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Next up was to finish the marrying of the two boards by means of providing bolts to secure the boards once they are aligned by the dowel joiners.

Finally an excuse to break out the new drill, I used 5No. 80mm long M8 bolts spread across the length of the boards with wing nuts & penny washers either side which seems to provide a sturdy fixing. I can also highly recommend the clamps which were picked up in the DIY aisle in Aldi. I can't remember the exact price but I can say they were no more than £10 for a set of 4 (mixed sizes). They are more than up to the job and hold fine when drilling.
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The PCB sleeper method is ideal for baseboard joins as it holds the track firm at the baseboard joints. The method I used was to make an extra wide sleeper and solder the rails to it. Then the sleepers are pinned, and the rails and sleepers are carefully cut through following the join between the pair of boards.
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Re: 6 x 4ft layout - Split down the middle!

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Thanks Mountain, I think this method is definitely going to be incorporated when I get a chance to pin the track back down.

Next up was to paint the back-scene. It's nice to finally see the plywood finish disappear beneath the realms of the railway. I used a tester pot from Wilkinsons which was plenty for the job. Vintage duck egg at £1.50 a pop for 125ml and not bad either!
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More pics to follow when I make progress on the right hand side. You can see currently, the frame for the tunnel structure which I may change to create a slimmer, triangular bridge which means that the tunnel will sit further around the bend. Thus, allowing more space for scenery at the track level.
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