St Ann's Bridge

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St Ann's Bridge

Postby Harringay Dave » Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:17 am

Hello!

I've had a thread over in Planning forever but I have never had the time, attitude or gumption to build something... until now.

So, here we are. St Ann's Bridge. The terminus of a short branch in the town of St Ann's - a typical Western Region town around the end of the 50s. Whilst the main line sweeps over the landscape on a viaduct, two tracks descend, turning to slip through one of the arches into the small area I'm modelling.

Initially it was my intention to have a simple terminus with two platforms, one being served by a Railcar or Autocoach, the other representing the slowly declining fortunes of Wagonload freight. I'm from Stourbridge originally, and the thought of recreating a short branch line was too much to ignore. The station would serve an off scene industry, as well as a small square of houses and shops, with the required roads running through.

I care less about the actual running of trains right now. I'm new to the "proper" modelling scene (not just running trains on the bedroom floor...) and so this is a steep learning curve. I'm really enjoying it but I'm bound to make mistakes, so your patience and gentle treatment is appreciated!

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Re: St Ann's Bridge

Postby Harringay Dave » Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:36 am

The scene is backed by the viaduct, which is of the Metcalfe brick variety. I was highly impressed with the kit to the point where I've purchased another Metcalfe product... but more about that later.

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The Metcalfe Viaduct. Great buy.
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I have had the idea of running the line into the scene under the viaduct since conception, but more recently I've also plumped for adding businesses in the other three arches. So far I've used spare card and brick paper from the kit to build the "filler" for one arch. The other two I intend to be corrugated iron. As I regaled in my planning thread I had a bit of a brainwave to use the cardboard sleeves which you use to protect your hands from a hot coffee. I've not added these to the viaduct itself yet as I'm considering what sort of business to provide and how it would appear in the context of the viaduct - all views on this appreciated; are there "viaduct kits" about? The same can't be said for plans to use stirrers as 4 foot road surface on the crossing...

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The stirrers aren't the solution right now, but the arch tops work...
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My roads are simple mounting board from Hobbycraft, painted Humbrol 140 Matt (thanks, Geoff T...!) I intend to use the mountboard across much of the layout, this also has the added bonus of being a way of slotting buildings in without gluing them. They'll hold fast even though the board is only about a mm thick. Good for reuse...

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Note the white pads where I tested road colour. These are in the arches, which holds the bridge in place.
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Further, I knew I wanted a level crossing but I was also acutely aware the products out there didn't really meet what I was looking for. So as if being a novice wasn't hard enough, I made it harder by deciding to have a go at semi-scratch building one, using a Peco gates set. I've modified it a bit - ive kept both wicket gates on one side as pavement is only on side, and the other gate holders have been trimmed to fit snugly between road and viaduct piers.

The mountboard is glued to the track in the relevant parts, giving it a very slight rise either side of the crossing. This raised a problem as I wasn't sure what to do with the pavement and level crossing elements. Note how I've cut into the board to house the wicket gates, this nicely does the transition between pavement (to be added later) and crossing.

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Level crossing.
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Finally, despite having tacked the track down, I had a last minute brainwave. In future I'd like to add another board, which would show the large industry off this scene. So I've added point work and a curve away from the original alignment. For now, I can retain the 2 platform solution by using a curved platform, but once the next bit of wood comes along I intend to expand that curve into sidings serving the brewery. So I'm future proofing already...!

I can't type properly on my mobile but that's where all my pictures are. I'll add pictures detailing all this as we go on.

Oh, and don't buy Bostik glue. It's awful!

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Re: St Ann's Bridge

Postby TimberSurf » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:21 am

I buy UHU 30ml from poundland :D
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Re: St Ann's Bridge

Postby m.levin » Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:29 am

I buy a lot for modelling from Poundland, glue, tape, brushes, sweets and even some cheap knifes.

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Re: St Ann's Bridge

Postby Harringay Dave » Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:36 pm

Another update...

I've put down another coat of Humbrol 140 - the roads now look the right sort of colour.

I visited the wonderful Janes in Tooting yesterday - I love going there as it gives me so many ideas. I bought some metcalfe platforms, and indeed settled on using their pavement system, the thickness of the card is 1mm, this will fit perfectly to the wicket gates and indeed provides a nice effect. I'll post pics of that another time.

I also went to Ally Pally last week. You'll note in my pics a little Hornby Railroad 0-4-0 - I'm one of the mugs that signed up to BRM in return for a free(!) loco. I enjoyed it, and also managed to pick up the level crossing gates which as you've seen I've quickly erected, and the Metcalfe country station. Again another excellent product which I've half finished - a couple of pics attached. I'm still to glue down the roof ridges and I need to add the chimney pots. I've not even started the accompanying platform shelter, but I'm not likely to use that for my current project so it's a bit less of a priority.

I'm away in the Portsmouth area for work this week, so no progress sadly. Any tips on potential modelling outlets to visit in the area would be highly appreciated.

Whats next?
I need to construct the platforms next, including cutting to the station building. The next conundrum is how to link the stationmaster's front door and station entrance to the ground - the suggested solution by Metcalfe didn't really catch my interest, so I may try some steps. In any case, I'll probably add a front garden for the stationmaster, which will allow me to sample some of the more rural delights...

Then I'll be sorting the level crossing - I think I might just use mount cut to the right size - I don't think it'd look too bad, and frankly other solutions right now are bothersome.

After the platforms and crossing are done it's ballast time.

As my planned expansion requires the next baseboard to be slightly longer, I'm considering a short extension to this one, only of about 100mm, so that it would be flush with the new one. This has various advantages which I'm sure are clear.

This was always to be a railway-lite board, as I wanted to test my modelling ability. We'll see about more trains for the next one...!
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Re: St Ann's Bridge

Postby Harringay Dave » Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:32 pm

The trouble I'm having is most of the ideas are in my head!

However I've continued down the path of Metcalfe obsession, and have crafted my first platform.

In (yet another) late change of plans, I've decided to develop the area behind the platform as a small Goods yard.

It'll be quite an odd setup, but one which I hope will spawn a classic "always been that way" scenario so typical of these small stations. I'm intending to have a small yard capable of handling commercial traffic in the area pictured. The curved track will one day lead to a big industry yard (potentially a brewery - one because Metcalfe do a kit, the other because I like beer...) but for now is a siding, creating the bizarre split platform. The straight ahead Goods platform will be used as a parcels and animals dock, as well as taking small domestic deliveries such as milk and coal. The passenger platform will be considered exclusively such, but will no doubt get used for some of these tasks because, hey, why not.

I really like the idea of a sign:

"Wagonload commercial freight only
For parcels and domestic traffic, use access on Station Square
For new traffic, see stationmaster
Passenger trains do not use this platform"

Or something like that.

I'm much inspired by the wonderful Light Relief by Jack Warland (available occasionally on Amazon etc) - he was a relief signalman in the 50s on the western half of the Southern Region, mainly the smaller boxes and stations which, as you'd expect, have some rather unusual anecdotes attached.

I'm not great at the free hand modelling that is so important for the platforms, but I love having it in place. Next step is the passenger platform, but I'm keen to expand the board by about 100mm first allowing expansion both ways later. Highly enjoyable fun, thus far.
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The location of the (small) commercial yard. I'll add some steps to the back of the platform and add a wall along some of the length, hiding those hideous cutting errors and also providing a road vehicle "dock" where loads can be transferred. I need a small office also, but unsure how to get this in as yet.
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There's been a bit of a paving slab incident... Here's the access to the new yard. Note the mountboard between rails. I've reconciled with myself that it's easier than all the faffing I was doing.
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Re: St Ann's Bridge

Postby Harringay Dave » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:25 pm

I got wood... HO HO HO... Oh.

Note highly professional method of holding the slightly boughed old board down to the baton underneath. Drink?
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Re: St Ann's Bridge

Postby js1975 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:52 am

Harringay Dave wrote:I visited the wonderful Janes in Tooting yesterday - I love going there as it gives me so many ideas.


It's a great little shop. Always busy as well, which is of course a good thing. Apparantly Jane herself is on holiday currently bobbing around in the Med somewhere.

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Re: St Ann's Bridge

Postby Harringay Dave » Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:04 pm

So I understand! They were talking rather enthusiastically about it!

I've taken on even more Metcalfe stuff, I'm obsessed!

I've also taken my first step into some very minor kit bashing... The steps for the signal box are meant to be end on to the building, but I just don't have the space, so by cutting the board around the base of the cabin and hackneying it on to the end of the landing, I've managed to sort it so the steps fit in the manner shown.

Hardly rocket science, but I've still made a bit of a mess of it. At least the box will now fit!

In other news, I've built the corner shop which will sit next to the station. The situation is that the station will probably be recessed back compared to the buildings either side, offering the opportunity for an attractive forecourt. Hopefully.

Still enjoying the town bit and I've neglected the track somewhat. But I'll return soon to it soon enough.
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Re: St Ann's Bridge

Postby Harringay Dave » Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:41 pm

Back to the trains, sort of... I finished the final section of platform and all associated works today, including the walls which required a bit more effort, especially in the goods yard with the magic white tarmac(!)

But this now means I can share this first "operational" picture. An industrial 0-4-0 sits with a brake van in the platform, having shunted a motley collection (read: what I haven't got boxes for) of wagons full of construction materials (such as surplus perspex, waste card, paving slabs...)

I've included a couple of in-scene shots too... I've really got the bug now!
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From the top of the signal box stairs...
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Looking down the main passenger platform.
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Re: St Ann's Bridge

Postby m.levin » Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:51 am

Good to hear you are enjoying model railways. It's all looking good and all looks well together.

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Re: St Ann's Bridge

Postby TimberSurf » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:02 am

That's a RUBBISH train!

Sorry I couldn't help myself, :D

Looking very busy in a diddy space :P
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Re: St Ann's Bridge

Postby Harringay Dave » Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:05 am

Thanks both! They are indeed full of rubbish!

A quick one tonight. I've sketched on to the board where I'd like everything to go and laid the board for the roads. One join (the nearest horizontal one) was unavoidable but all the others will actually be hidden beneath pavements etc. (it looks worse on camera than it is, I think)

It actually reveals that the board isn't THAT big... I thought I could get a square and another row of buildings in but that's clearly not possible!!! Instead, I was thinking of crafting a graveyard in the big space where the waste mount board is, when I extend the board towards the camera I could put a church in there. The area is called St Anns, after all...

Any tips on what to do in that space would be very welcomed. It could be a town square I guess.

This also lends an opportunity to get a feel for how far this project will expand. I'm now of the view that a raised embankment around three sides will hold a loop, dropping down at the front so it can be viewed by anyone who so cares. Controlled from the back, where there'll be a fiddle yard, hidden by the raised embankment, from which trains will climb to meet the loop, which will also have a mainline station and associated carriage sidings etc. A TMD or Yard could follow as a separate project.

I'm thinking 2.25m x 1.8m as a base, built with six 725x900mm modules. The significant other has already asked the deadly "where will it go" question - I'm hoping someone can point me towards a place of safety for it later on. For now, I'm just enjoying the fun of it all.
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Re: St Ann's Bridge

Postby Harringay Dave » Mon May 01, 2017 12:49 am

My slow rumble towards this module's completion continues... I've now wishing I had bought shares in Metcalfe, having procured some items from Cravens in Skipton during an Easter visit to the in laws, and Tennents of Halesowen after seeing my own family this weekend. I must say I loved the vibe in Tennents. A real Aladdins Cave...

Anyway, I have now laid the unpainted road and I've also built the terrace and slotted it in next to the station. This has given me the chance to get some pavements down.

I've also got some Low Relief shop fronts and house backs, which I have been assured go together to form standalone buildings.

Next, I've hacked some track up to extend the platform lengths. I want to get ballast down but I can't test the track at the minute - I don't have a power controller. Any cheap tips or leads would be very welcomed.

What's next
Build the shops - there are four of these for this board.
Paint the roads and complete the paving.
Install the arches businesses.
When I've tested the track, lay ballast.
A small garden for the stationmaster.
Solution for the Station forecourt.
Decide what to put in space opposite station.

After that, I can start turning my attention to the intricate details. Planters full of flowers, signs, advertising, etc. I'm a good story teller, so I hope I can really craft some yarns out of what I'm up to.
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Finally a shot of the extended platform lines. I can now fit two short wheel base wagons into the goods dock, which is what I wanted. Alternatively a bogie CCT might find its way in there. I've deliberately not used a buffer stop for the dock. The pax platform naturally has one...
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Another shot of the station front, looking up the ram directly to the platform. My GW brake van is just visible. I like how this has all fit together.
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Overall view of what I've done so far. Note the small parking area on the station forecourt, and the empty bit of board where the SM's garden will be.
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Re: St Ann's Bridge

Postby Zeffico » Tue May 02, 2017 10:16 am

Hi Dave,

This is moving along really nicely and just like you I have found the wonders of the Metcalfe kits (great results and very reasonably priced too).

Keep up the good work.


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