Gantsville - Building an HO Inglenook

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Gantsville - Building an HO Inglenook

Postby nickbrad » Sun Jun 12, 2016 12:01 pm

Following on my my planning thread, I thought I should really get around to posting up a build thread following a wonderful trip to the TVNAM show yesterday.

For any that haven't seen, the layout is 1530mm x 450mm, (Roughly 5ft x 18in.) Some compromises are being made in that it's using code 100 concrete sleepered track as opposed to code 83 wooden sleepers, but personally I can live with this as I already had around 6 lengths of track that I purchased back in 2001. I shall either look in to masking the sleepers as wood, or just accept it as this isn't meant as a "layout of a lifetime", simply something for me to get trains running that I can have out permanently and enjoy. Also, dates are being completely dispensed with, anything from the late 40s to the present day could turn up. More important to me is the type of traffic, so no gondolas or tanks cars for me.


So on to the base itself, which is made from 50mm Celotex. I chose it due to the weight advantages, but upon further reading, I've come across some concerns over it warping over time. the obvious thing to do would be to attach it to a lumber frame, as I am doing, but then of course you lost those weight benefits as I am unconvinced I am saving much over a sheet of 6mm ply for example.


Finally to some pictures and inevitably to the age old question, how much stock is too much?

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Already I have exceeded my capacity, the 3-2-2 inglenook is designed for only 5 cars and one loco at a time and yet, I am after a coach and eventually 2-3 more locos, (the coach will never be used as part of the puzzle, just as a standalone item to be propelled in when the mood takes me). I know that strictly speaking I don't need them and hence why the locos are a long term plan, possibly even for a future layout based on the same RR, but even though this is only essentially a shunting puzzle, with it being based upon a real location, I find myself wanting to model rolling stock that was seen at some point on the line.

This final shot shows the total area, amazingly it seems I didn't take any pictures of the full baseboard, but I am sure you can imagine what 2 pieces of celotex looks like, stuck together with no nails adhesive and cocktail sticks skewered through at an angle to help reinforce the joint.

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The backscene I was very lucky with, it turns out that the backing for an argos bookshelf is perfect if split down it's centre and laid end to end. It certainly saves me going to purchase a piece of hardboard specifically for this.


Oh, in closing, further to our discussion yeterday Rob about the caboose, I found this picture, so it seems I can get away with using it after all, once I've done some repair/replacement work :)
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Re: Gantsville - Building an HO Inglenook

Postby SR/ScR Fan » Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:24 am

No such thing as too much stock! You've seen the fleet of stock I have for TYS!

I'm glad you can get away with using a caboose. Prototype for everything!

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Re: Gantsville - Building an HO Inglenook

Postby nickbrad » Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:30 pm

An update, the trackwork has been slightly revised due to owning longer wagons than originally planned and my own tight fistedness coming back to bite me.

I tried to make the two shorter sidings out of one length of flexitrack, figuring that that extra 2cm wouldn't matter, but of course it does. I had the issue of the cars being too close together where the points diverged, unless the far end set of wheels was teetering on the edge of the track. Luckily I had sufficient space to lose that track from the headshunt end, but it is slightly annoying to have 3cm of track tacked onto the end of each siding/spur. I shalln't worry about providing droppers to it though as locos shouldn't ever reach the ends. My mistake can be seen in the above pictures.

Moving on, I had an unsuccessful day trying to track down the screws to attach couplings to my stock. The SW9 and one of my cars came without couplings, two others came with hornblocks, all of which will require fitting with kadees. Sadly, no one in Lincoln seems to be able to supply the tiny beggars. The only info I have to go on is that the thread is slightly larger than the 0-80 screws I have for my Bowser boxcar kit. Any suggestions?

I have made some temporary alterations to my two points, that I have "borrowed" from Budgetbrooke, fusing an unbent paperclip to the switch tie so I can manually change them. I shall be ordering some working hand levers from the US next month, but in the meantime, this makes my job easier, even if it is a little bit of an eyesore.

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Whilst sorting through some bits today, I pulled out a load of old track and was wondering if it's of any use to anyone. I must stress that it's not in great condition and so it would be free to whoever wants it, as long as they cover the postage via paypal friends. There are 16 Triang R491s, some boxed, some not, some complete also, some not, with pieces of trackwork missing. The majority are useable though. There's also a broken left Peco point, a couple of Hornby R613s, (one of which is broken,) a Hornby R612. Along with this is an unmarked insulated x crossing, the same length as the aforementioned points. Finally, a selection of Hornby and Lima setrack pieces. The track is old and little of it is nickel silver, (probably 3 or 4 items). It's not pretty and all will need cleaning up before any possible use. If it can be used by anyone though, then I am happy to pass it on, rather than waste time with ebay listings of just needlessly hoofing it in the bin.
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Re: Gantsville - Building an HO Inglenook

Postby nickbrad » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:28 pm

Just spent another £20.90 on rolling stock including p&p, but I can happily say I have everything i want now on that front, barring a possible GE 44 tonner a few months down the line. I do expect to be able to get some of that money back though as I only require one of the 2 coaches, the top one is surplus to requirements and the bottom one is set for some considerable, (for me,) modification, to turn it into ARC Alexandria, seen here.

Track has been checked for lengths, which I am happy to say is now all correct, one boxcar is going to require cranked kadees as the ones I have are too low atm, not a massive issue though for "testing". Next jobs are tracking down some decals for my pulpwood car before carrying out it's modifications and respray, also, providing track power feeds, (all four of them,) and sticking the trackwork down permanently, instead of drawing pins for temporary location.

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Re: Gantsville - Building an HO Inglenook

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Mmm....Santa Fe....

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Re: Gantsville - Building an HO Inglenook

Postby nickbrad » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:18 pm

They would sit ok alongside that ATSF boxcar, but alas, the "St Croix" car is destined to lose all that pretty lining and identity, along with the door at one end. Annoyingly though, I now have a dead link that used to show that side of the coach from the rrarchives site, usually I just save pictures to my hard drive and it's sod's law that I didn't this time. Google isn't able to find it elsewhere either, so I will have to leave the underfloor detail alone and luckily, there wasn't any window changes that I recall.

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Re: Gantsville - Building an HO Inglenook

Postby SR/ScR Fan » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:23 pm

Just remember "If it looks right, then it probably is"

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Re: Gantsville - Building an HO Inglenook

Postby nickbrad » Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:53 pm

Yep, that's the philosophy I'm going to go with on this one, I'm fully expecting the New Hope Valley railroad to recover the prototype from where it currently sits amongst the bushes and expose any errors, right after I finish the model :lol:

I have started on the pulpwood car, removing the plated ends, to be replaced by sliced up coffee stirrers in order to replicate ARC #2, seen here.

When bringing up the above picture, I decided to try again with the picture of Alexandria and it looks like there is some window modifications to be done, (see here,) hopefully I am up to the task. I plan to take my time though, the vents along the clerestory roof are also different. I have learnt from my mistake and saved both pictures for my own use, just in case there is a repeat of the outage.

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Re: Gantsville - Building an HO Inglenook

Postby nickbrad » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:22 pm

The last arrival is here, the Rivarossi heavyweight Pullman.

In this first pic, you can see the window area that needs modification, there should be a double set of windows as seen further along, followed by two full depth windows on this side. The door area on this end is where the cut will take place, to make the observation platform.

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A longer view this time, the massively oversized mesh in the doorway will have to go, along with the oversized brake wheel, although having no pictures of this end of the coach to hand, I may have to resort to modellers licence. You may be also able to work out that I'd struggle to fit even a 40ft boxcar on the siding with this beast, but then it was never my plan to have this as part of the shunting puzzle anyway :)

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This final shot shows the couplings that came attached with it, i'll have to swap it of course, but I'd love to get hold of some more, they look a fantastic alternative to Brian Kirby method tension locks on my 00 layout.

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Re: Gantsville - Building an HO Inglenook

Postby SR/ScR Fan » Tue Jun 21, 2016 1:17 pm

McHenry make straight swap replacements for the Rivarossi coaches. Model Junction sell them.

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Re: Gantsville - Building an HO Inglenook

Postby nickbrad » Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:51 pm

Thanks for that, i'll take a look :D

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Re: Gantsville - Building an HO Inglenook

Postby nickbrad » Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:15 pm

Ok, I am at that point when I need ideas. I decided to get started on dismantling the coach ready to start the modifications and first off, you have to push all 6 glazing tabs in on the bottom of the coach to release the glazing/roof unit which is moulded as a single piece. Unfortunately I managed to break one tab, but as it's the end getting modifications, I'm not too worried at this point.

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As can be seen in the 3rd picture, someone has previously had the coach apart and decided to hot melt the interior in place. This is where the request for ideas comes in, I don't know the best way to remove the interior so I can then remove the bogies and make the modifications etc.
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Re: Gantsville - Building an HO Inglenook

Postby Bufferstop » Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:34 pm

If you have a Dremel/Expo/Minicraft type drill and a dental burr you could try grinding away the molten bits, or cutting a ring around them in the good plastic. The interior moulding should then lift out leaving the molten lumps on the floor to be cleaned up.
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Re: Gantsville - Building an HO Inglenook

Postby nickbrad » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:24 am

That's what I am thinking also, it may be time to invest in a mini drill. It does mean i'll have to put this one aside for a couple of weeks, but there's the wiring I can do first, repaint the SW9, work on the pulpwood car, start on the scnery.......

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Re: Gantsville - Building an HO Inglenook

Postby nickbrad » Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:44 pm

Wiring not completed yet as I was unable to find my stock of suitable gauge cables, all i have is some super thin stuff that was advertised as suitable for model railway wiring, but turned out to be what I'd expect to use for individual LEDs, not power feeds. Friday I shall order some 18 gauge stuff that's more in line with what I'd expect to see.

My thoughts have also been spent on considering what to do about the sole planned building for the layout. Originally I was going to build a scale replica of the depot building in Taylorsville, but when I decided to go with the narrower baseboard, it meant that I couldn't fit the full width without compressing everything else. This has turned into a blessing though as the full sized building would have looked totally out of place with my compressed inglenook tracks. Therefore I am going to copy the style of the building, but with a footprint of 10x14cm. This still scales out to 8.7 x 12.2 metres which I feel is sufficient for a small depot designed to handle local goods.

Now on to what I have actually been doing, rather than what I plan to do. Well, the truth is, very little. I have removed the end plates on my pulpwood car to begin my replica of ARC #2, I need to fabricate longer ladders in a couple of places though, then mask off a couple of data panels before the respray. Then it's time to place the battered board on the ends, (made from wooden stirrers,) and source some decals/work out how to get some printed.
If anyone has any experience with the likes of crafty computer paper and an available working printer, please pm me if you'd be willing to consider printing off some custom decals for me. I will of course be willing to pay for the service.

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I have also dismantled the body on the SW9 in preparation of repainting. I also wanted to add a driver at the same time, but upon opening, it turns out there are already 2 seated inside, albeit in black plastic so almost undetectable from the outside. I'll probably liberate one of them from his seat for reuse elsewhere, most likely driving one of my Bachmann "Charlie's".

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I will have to remake a couple of handrails also by the look of things, there is one missing from the frame, I have one with a broken clip also that can be seen at the back of the bonnet section. Both of these were damaged upon arrival, but I decided to let it slide as ebay's policy now seems to auto set to returning damaged or faulty items rather than receiving a partial refund as I have done in the past. I can see me learning a lot of skills by the time I am finished, but I am sure it is possible if I take my time and keep focused on what I want to achieve. The rolling stock will live on beyond the layout, so it is important that I am happy with my finished product.
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