The story of PETERSDALE my OO gauge Branch Line layout

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Re: The story of PETERSDALE my OO gauge Branch Line layout

Postby RailwayRobbo » Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:03 pm

Medieval stonemasons back on site. Church now at an advanced stage of construction. Hopefully be finished by the end of the week.

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We're getting there.
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I've been thinking I should have at least one building with lighting on PETERSDALE so it's got to be the Church as this is the last kit I have to construct.
Electronics isn't my best skill or knowledge so I'm after a bit of advice.

I'm thinking of putting 3 or 4 small clear/white LEDs inside the building.
I know how to identify the polarity of the LEDs (long leg+ short leg-) and how to wire them up in series.
I need to know what size LED should I use and what resistor to put in the circuit.
Any advice will be gratefully received.

Thanks Pete.

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Re: The story of PETERSDALE my OO gauge Branch Line layout

Postby RailwayRobbo » Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:55 am

Well finally the Stonemasons have finished and cleared the site. The church is now finished.

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Church temporarily positioned in the churchyard 1
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Church temporarily positioned in the churchyard 2
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Pictures show the church (and Lych Gate) in the 2 possible positions it could be sited in.

Now I have seen the actual size of the Church I am wondering if it's not too big for the layout (especially the height of the tower).
To me I think it needs a bigger area to be sited in as well. It looks as though it's been squeezed into the existing small area.
It looks like it dominants the whole village scene blocking off the view to the Shed Yard and beyond.
It's a nice kit that looks realistic and went together really well but which ever way I position it, it doesn't look right.
You get a better perspective with these longer range pictures.

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Church and Village 1
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Church and Village 2
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If anything it does look slightly better in position 2 end on with the road, but I'm still not happy with it.

So guys can I have your opinions on the Church. Would you keep it or would you replace it with something else?

My wife had a good alternative idea.
Turn the space into a small holding and have the local 'eccentric' living in a grounded coach body surrounded by his allotments and a few animals (pigs, chickens etc.)
I must admit I really like the sound of that.
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Re: The story of PETERSDALE my OO gauge Branch Line layout

Postby RailwayRobbo » Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:58 am

A couple more pictures of the Church.

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Church 1
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Church 2
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Re: The story of PETERSDALE my OO gauge Branch Line layout

Postby End2end » Thu Mar 03, 2016 12:00 pm

I'd say keep it. I especially like the last photo and with a cemetary around it to bed it in I think it won't look out of place, perhaps pushing the church to the rear of it's location will also allow for a driveway/pathway upto and around the church. :)
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Re: The story of PETERSDALE my OO gauge Branch Line layout

Postby RailwayRobbo » Thu Mar 03, 2016 12:06 pm

Thanks for that End2End.
I agree the Church looks fine in the last picture but it's the 'Church and Village 1' picture that's not convincing me to keep it.
The more I look at it the more I can see the local 'eccentric' in his grounded coach body.

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Re: The story of PETERSDALE my OO gauge Branch Line layout

Postby Coopslner » Thu Mar 03, 2016 12:13 pm

Looking at your progress it looks as if it comes really easy to you, and how good it looks too! I particularly like the shot of the line over the canal, the trees look great. I also like how much detail you have managed to put into the goods yard. The smallest of additions can really make the scene come to life.
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Postby End2end » Thu Mar 03, 2016 12:16 pm

Ahh! Perhaps, if it fits, a rectory / village hall / scout hut on the same site as well to give a more coherent reason and use of the church and church site?
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Re: The story of PETERSDALE my OO gauge Branch Line layout

Postby Coopslner » Thu Mar 03, 2016 12:18 pm

Both scenes are workable but I personally like the idea of the allotments, and I think if it was me I would go for that, it will flow better from the row of houses and not obscure the scene behind.
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Postby Ex-Pat » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:13 pm

End2end wrote:I'd say keep it. I especially like the last photo and with a cemetary around it to bed it in I think it won't look out of place, )
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Those were my thoughts before I even read them. I think it's safe to say that old churches tended to dominate their surroundings so its size is in keeping. It would be a shame to not use it - and if you keep it will it be "St. Peters"?!

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Re: The story of PETERSDALE my OO gauge Branch Line layout

Postby Bufferstop » Thu Mar 03, 2016 2:19 pm

I'd say the church is about right on size for a compromise. It's bigger than the houses, just about fits the plot, but some of the alternatives would add more life to the scene without needing too many people, (the wedding party scene has been flogged to death). I like the idea of the small holding with the grounded coach body. Opposite my house there is a now impenetrable overgrown orchard containing all that remains of such a dwelling, I'd thought of incorporating something similar on my layout but there isn't a suitable spot.
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Re: The story of PETERSDALE my OO gauge Branch Line layout

Postby RailwayRobbo » Fri Mar 04, 2016 12:21 pm

Thanks guys for all the replies. Seems like a 50:50 split in opinions but I'm still not convinced. The more I look at the pictures and think about the eccentric old guy with his pigs, chickens etc the more I'm leaning towards that. I think if the Church had been against the backscene (more in the background) at the other side of the tracks so to speak the better it would have worked. I'm off to the exhibition at Leamington tomorrow to see if I can find a grounded coach body. Guess I've made up my mind but I could always change it lol.

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Re: The story of PETERSDALE my OO gauge Branch Line layout

Postby nickbrad » Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:01 am

RailwayRobbo wrote:
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My wife had a good alternative idea.
Turn the space into a small holding and have the local 'eccentric' living in a grounded coach body surrounded by his allotments and a few animals (pigs, chickens etc.)
I must admit I really like the sound of that.


I think that looks just about perfect personally, the church was often the dominant structure in villages and doesn't look out of place to me. However, rule 1 should always be invoked in these cases, it's your railway and you should do what's best for you. The smallholding would make an attractive and unusual scenic feature. I'm not so sure the lane leading up to the plot would have been so well lit though, the lamps mark the area out as having some kind of importance to the local residents.

Edit, the picture should be Church and village 1, but it's not showing in the quote for some reason.

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Re: The story of PETERSDALE my OO gauge Branch Line layout

Postby RailwayRobbo » Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:00 pm

nickbrad wrote:
RailwayRobbo wrote:
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My wife had a good alternative idea.
Turn the space into a small holding and have the local 'eccentric' living in a grounded coach body surrounded by his allotments and a few animals (pigs, chickens etc.)
I must admit I really like the sound of that.


I think that looks just about perfect personally, the church was often the dominant structure in villages and doesn't look out of place to me. However, rule 1 should always be invoked in these cases, it's your railway and you should do what's best for you. The smallholding would make an attractive and unusual scenic feature. I'm not so sure the lane leading up to the plot would have been so well lit though, the lamps mark the area out as having some kind of importance to the local residents.

Edit, the picture should be Church and village 1, but it's not showing in the quote for some reason.


Thanks for that Nick.
Regards the lamp posts. I've thought for a while now that maybe I'd 'overdosed' on the lamp posts and probably the telegraph poles as well. I guess I just wanted to empty the packet in both cases.

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Re: The story of PETERSDALE my OO gauge Branch Line layout

Postby jon_1066 » Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:50 pm

Two thoughts:

1. Have a lift out board so you can swap between either scene. You don't need to decide then.

2. Allotments are actually tricky things to model due to the variety of plants and vegetables. eg think about how you can model some runner beans or potatoes? That churchyard is quite a lot of ground to cover if you have to hand build all the plants. If you do go down that road you can buy some - I believe Noch do them.

The layout is looking great by the way!

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Re: The story of PETERSDALE my OO gauge Branch Line layout

Postby RailwayRobbo » Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:36 am

jon_1066 wrote:Two thoughts:

1. Have a lift out board so you can swap between either scene. You don't need to decide then.

2. Allotments are actually tricky things to model due to the variety of plants and vegetables. eg think about how you can model some runner beans or potatoes? That churchyard is quite a lot of ground to cover if you have to hand build all the plants. If you do go down that road you can buy some - I believe Noch do them.

The layout is looking great by the way!


Thanks for the comments Jon. The lift out board sounds a good idea.
The allotments would actually be a small holding with pigs, chickens and some veg. I'm not thinking of actually scratch building the vegetation. They would be RTP (Ready To Plant) versions. There wouldn't be lots and lots of small plots like the good old English allotments you still see today.
I bought a Metcalfe Stable Block at the weekend which I'll make shortly. How this looks will be another factor in deciding which way to go.

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