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Re: St. Blazey's - My first layout - Stage 3 Building

Postby End2end » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:22 pm

Thanks GreenBR. I'll take a look. :)
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Postby End2end » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:23 pm

I managed to pick up a hole cutting set from the boot sale this weekend for £4 so set about cutting the new holes for the wiring run this evening.
I have only cut new holes in the original baseboard, leaving the rest until they have all been connected so I know where the holes can go, unlike the original holes I made. :roll:
Now the wires will not be in the way of where the legs need to be attached.
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Re: St. Blazey's - My first layout - Stage 3 Building

Postby End2end » Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:51 am

I'm continuing to work on my free grounded van from railway modeller magazine but talk about painstaking painting. :?
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Nowhere near finished yet but I needed to get the rust on before weathering it down more.
Glad that bits over, although it could be worse. It could be twiddly fiddly N gauge. :lol:
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Postby End2end » Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:47 am

I have been looking at pictures of coaching inns and the like over the last couple of days for inspiration for my Linka inn idea and have finally come up with a crude plan.
The legend is FT = Full Tile (width) / HT = Half Tile (width)
I will use half tiles to offset and widen the archway and leave some space between the 2 front elevation doors so it looks more visually pleasing. To me at least. :mrgreen:
The top row is :- LEFT - front elevation / RIGHT - right hand side elevation, from the front
The middle row :- LEFT - rear elevation / RIGHT - left hand elevation, from the front (with brick chimney)
The bottom row are the walls that will fit under the arch.
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On the front elevation, the blank space above the left hand "main" door, is space for the inn's name.
The rear elevation shows where the roof will descend further down on either side of the arch to ground floor ceiling height, siting these 2 areas (under the roofs) further back than the main building
I haven't shown the main roof.
I needed one more Linka mould for the windows I want to use and as it's stone I can use it on later models.
I checked both linkaonline and scalecast and managed to get it from linkaonline for £10.99 instead of £11.95 from scalecast. :D
http://www.linkaonline.co.uk/store/p144 ... Mould.html
https://www.scalecast.co.uk/store/p96/S ... uld.html#/
Now I need to source some window acetates for this project as is being discussed here - viewtopic.php?f=49&t=54149&start=15#p667804
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Postby End2end » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:27 pm

Joy to the.....West! :D
I received an email from Hornby today showing a new wagon to join the fleet and it is a St. Austell wagon! Perfect.
https://www.hornby.com/uk-en/private-ow ... FQ,4NJVP,1

Also, talking about cars with someone today, I visited the Oxford Diescast site.
I added the "City of Truro" Fowler Steam Roller to my list of "things i'd like to buy" ages ago but found a forthcoming release with livery that is even closer to the real St. Blazey. Par!
https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collect ... im-76br002
Think i'll be buying that one instead :)

The Linka ruler I won on ebay turned up today but the other mould I've ordered wont be here for a couple of days so I am turning my attention to the floor plan of the Inn. I need to look at some pictures as I don't know if it would have had 2 bars like pubs have or just one large room, would the toilets be Internal or external, the position of the stairs to the upper floor, where the other walls will be, consideration for lighting etc etc etc.

I also need to consider how to make the building strong enough laterally so it can be handled without snapping in two at the archway.
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Re: St. Blazey's - My first layout - Stage 3 Building

Postby End2end » Thu May 02, 2019 5:30 pm

Planning still underway with the inn, I decided to try to make an actual (rough) scale floor plan with my new Linka ruler.
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This made it easy as one of the edges of the ruler (top edge in the picture) has an "00" 1/76 - 4mm = 1 foot gauge on it.
So after measuring the moulds with the Linka ruler I noted each full tile is 9 feet wide ("9" mark on the ruler) or 36mm in real terms, and each half width tile is 4.5 feet wide (4.5 on the ruler) or 18mm in real terms.
On the ruler this equates to 1 tile = 9 / 2 tiles = 18 / 3 tiles = 27 etc.

This works out at a total width of 288mm wide (8 tiles X 36mm = 288mm or 28.8cms) and a total depth of 108mm (3 tiles X 36mm = 108mm or 10.8cms)
Or so says the maths. My biggest Linka building yet! :shock:

I used the "9" mark on the ruler and drew 2 grids (one for each floor) of 9x9's and some lines for the half width tiles using the 4.5 mark on the ruler.
I also moved a couple of window tiles along by a half width tile so the next tile to them will become a full stone wall tile rather than 2 half width stone tiles either side of the window tiles, making building easier. I then marked where all the doors and windows will be on each floor.

The top plan is the ground floor and the bottom plan is the 1st (upper) floor.

HT GAP = Half width stone tile
HT GAP (Half Height) = Half width AND (cut down) Half height stone tile

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On the bottom "1st floor" plan, I have also shown the roof section which will rise from the ground floor.

And just to show the scale in real terms.... with obligatory 00 grounded van and various rulers I used.
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I've started gluing some of the plain stone wall tiles together in 2's and 3's where they fit into the plan but only full tiles, no half tiles, so the plan to move the windows over by half a tile here and there won't affect what I've made up so far.
I'm not going to make up any more tiles yet until the other mould I need arrives but it's a start. :)
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Re: St. Blazey's - My first layout - Stage 3 Building

Postby Dublo » Thu May 02, 2019 7:22 pm

Hi End2
Exciting, a new building arising. Looks like your new scale rule is a useful bit of kit. Looking forward to the grand opening ceremony and flowing Ale. Getting my tankard ready for some quaffing.

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Re: St. Blazey's - My first layout - Stage 3 Building

Postby Mountain » Thu May 02, 2019 7:39 pm

I like the grounded van body.

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Re: St. Blazey's - My first layout - Stage 3 Building

Postby joshv8 » Thu May 02, 2019 7:55 pm

That scale rule is a nice idea. I look foward to seeing how your building progresses. Youve made good progress since I last checked in.

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Re: St. Blazey's - My first layout - Stage 3 Building

Postby TimberSurf » Thu May 02, 2019 10:39 pm

Advice from Timbologist is not to have tiles directly above each other! Like brickwork, offset the design by 1/2 a tile on each level, if you can. It breaks up the joins to the eye and is stronger.
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Postby End2end » Thu May 02, 2019 11:14 pm

TimberSurf wrote:Advice from Timbologist is not to have tiles directly above each other! Like brickwork, offset the design by 1/2 a tile on each level, if you can. It breaks up the joins to the eye and is stronger.

Advice especially apt for roof tiles! For strength I usually glue tiles or bits of tiles over the joins on the back / inside (or underside in the case of roofs).
In this case Timbersurf it doesn't matter about the design as it's all going to be covered in a second face coat of plaster so you won't really see the stone repetition.

I was actually thinking earlier, that's one mould type that's missing from the range. Moulds of just multiple half width tiles in stone, brick or wood so you can cast 6 -8 half tiles at a time. Half tiles are very useful.

@joshv8. Yes a very rare item indeed! I wonder if scalecast will ever produce one?
@Mountain. I've still not finished the van but it was useful to understand the size of this LINKA LEVIATION. :shock: :lol:
@Dublo. First rounds on me. :mrgreen:
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Re: St. Blazey's - My first layout - Stage 3 Building

Postby Dublo » Fri May 03, 2019 5:47 am

Hi End2
Half panel mould, your right that would be useful. I have a single one for brickwork along with other pieces on one of the green moulds. But I don't appear to have a stone one at all. If Scalecast don't produce one then maybe Dublo moulds will.

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Postby TimberSurf » Fri May 03, 2019 10:06 am

Dublo wrote:Hi End2
Half panel mould, your right that would be useful. I have a single one for brickwork along with other pieces on one of the green moulds. But I don't appear to have a stone one at all. If Scalecast don't produce one then maybe Dublo moulds will.

S3 mould has a half tile in stone. If you don't have S3, but have S4, the full tile with holes in the middle can easily be sawn off in half to give a half width tile!
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Re: St. Blazey's - My first layout - Stage 3 Building

Postby End2end » Fri May 03, 2019 1:21 pm

TimberSurf wrote:S3 mould has a half tile in stone. If you don't have S3, but have S4, the full tile with holes in the middle can easily be sawn off in half to give a half width tile!

I do actually have the S3 and S4 moulds and have had to resort to filing the tile with holes down to create more.
It's a pain in the brake van! :lol:
If anyone creates a multiple (perhaps 8 ) half tile mould in stone...I'll take one. :mrgreen: I'll take a multiple half tile brick one too if your feeling adventurous! :D
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Re: St. Blazey's - My first layout - Stage 3 Building

Postby End2end » Tue May 07, 2019 2:24 pm

Ebay wins, 4 boot sales, a toy fair and a trip to Gaugemaster over the bank holiday weekend meant I managed to gather some more items I need for the Inn I am building plus some extra generic bits and pieces.
From Ebay I'm waiting on a 300mm X 200mm steel square, a fibre glass scratch pen (to remove decals from my next win), Finally I managed to buy a Hornby ECC liveried 0-4-0 Barclay Shunter. :mrgreen:

From Gaugemaster an "I" beam shaped length of plastic for £1.95 (OUCH!) and a packet of 4 Wills SSMP227 English Bond brick sheets £3.95 (for the Inn's chimney) plus April's BRM magazine (with the cover removed) for free.

From the toy fair the "British Railway Modelling Right Track 4 Detailing and Improving RTR" dvd for only £1 :o .

From the boot sales a pack of 3 wire brushes (nylon, steel and brass) and a Linka system trial set with extra moulds for only £2! :o

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All this recent talk of Linka in the last few weeks, I had a "feeling in me bones" I'd find some but was more on the lookout for the usual bigger boxes. :lol:
Inside the box was only moulds and some paper work. No measuring cups or tools. I had hoped there would be some of the window acetates in there too but sadly not.
I'm not sure what the owner had used to cast with but 2 of the moulds (single tunnel mouth and long walling with top stones) are in a bad state of repair with a lot of hard plaster residue on them and a hole or 2 in the moulds so I don't think they can be used. They are not like the usual moulds though. Very thin, like the long roofing moulds. The tunnel mouth is see through and the walling mould is black.
But that still leaves 8 usuable moulds. I like to have 2 of each mould I use (for quicker casting) so will keep what I need and 1 or 2 I want as the set came with a wider pavement mould to the 3 (of the same pavement mould) I already have so will also keep that and sell on the rest.
This should help fund anything else I need for the Inn build.
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