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Re: St. Blazey's - My first layout - Stage 3 Building

Postby Eastern » Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:59 pm

...the actual levelling of all four boards once stood on thier legs is what I need to know.
You could use a spirit level and then add shims under legs where the boards need to be levelled? I had a similar situation on my layout and haven't really noticed it -
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Re: St. Blazey's - My first layout - Stage 3 Building

Postby TimberSurf » Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:44 pm

Water tube level or 6ft level across the room in the middle of boards or shorter level balanced on edge of very straight wide plank
Laser level (borrow if not willing to buy)
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Re: St. Blazey's - My first layout - Stage 3 Building

Postby End2end » Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:49 pm

Eastern wrote:You could use a spirit level and then add shims under legs where the boards need to be levelled? I had a similar situation on my layout and haven't really noticed it -


Ahh I think the adjustable baseboard feet will cover that instead of using shims.

Timbersurf could you elaborate on the actual procedures a little please?
I might know someone with a laser level not sure about a 6ft level.
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Postby TimberSurf » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:10 pm

https://www.screwfix.com/p/forge-steel- ... -set/9810c shows 2ft,4ft and 6ft levels
Spinning Laser, stick in middle of room and raise boards to just touch
Fixed laser not much use, just extends length, place in one corner and move in increments round walls and rise board to meet it
If 6ft level not available, use shorter one, but find 6ft wood plank that is wide, turn on its edge and put small level on top and use as if a long one.
Start in corner A and level B
Level A to D
Then level D to C
Then check B to C, should be OK!

A B
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If it reaches, A to C, A to B and A to D
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Re: St. Blazey's - My first layout - Stage 3 Building

Postby Bufferstop » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:16 pm

All you need is your best rolling wagon and a couple of lengths of track. Getting the boards absolutely level isn't the same thing as getting the track, sidings in particular, level. It's a bit embarrassing if you have to install real catch points to intercept runaway wagons.
Take a look at these bracket feet they can be added anytime to existing baseboard legs.
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Postby End2end » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:50 pm

Thanks for that link Bufferstop. :)
The ones I have been looking at on the bay are the - Medium Bracket Foot 100mm Screw FAB102 on that site.
The cost with postage comes to £56.40
Those listed on the bay are in 4's, 12's and 24's so I will do some calculations and see which is cheaper as some are listed as "make an offer".
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Postby End2end » Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:40 am

Thanks again for that link Bufferstop.
After adding it all up it's actually cheaper to buy the whole lot I need from Station Road BB's than it is JUST to buy the adjustable feet off of ebay.
So wielding the trusty cc I have just purchased the lot including feet (that come with the fixing screws - not like on ebay), and the baseboard connecting bolts, wing nuts and washers.
Happy days. :mrgreen:
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Postby End2end » Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:03 pm

One missed arrival and one new arrival today.
I missed the delivery of the baseboard fittings and I'm an uncle again! :D
Baby boy born last night just before 11.

I'll need to get a move on with the layout.....I think Thomas will be expected next! :mrgreen:
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Postby End2end » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:16 pm

There's a man going round taking...........measurements. :lol:
My free wood man will be here tonight to take my order for the basebaord legs I need.
I'm going to go with a leg height of 900mm with the extra 100mm on the adjustable brackets I think this will be a good approximate height.
Not too high for little visitors and not low for me.

All the baseboard fittings have now been delivered although in 2 parcels as Station Road Basboards didn't put in the penny washers.
He did make me laugh in the second email. He was wrapping the penny washers omitted from the first parcel and found the original ones had rolled out of the original parcel and were sitting at the back of his packing bench. :lol:... Life.

Once the credit card is paid I can back to thinking about modelling purchases. I definatly need some powder for my Linka moulds to build the main station building and at some point a black roofed Intercity power and dummy car to go with my lit coaches.

I am still considering the idea of electrofrog points in the hidden sidings but is there a peco electrofrog point in the same dimensions as a normal peco setrack insulfrog point? (ST-240 / 241).
If not then I will have to use insulfrog which I'd rather not do but I don't see a way around it as the points are just after the twin 2nd and 3rd raduii curves.
Using the narrower track spacing of streamline electrofrogs would cause trains to hit each other on the curve entrances/exits.

Hornby and that blooming devil's tablecloth make it all look so easy. :roll:
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Postby luckymucklebackit » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:28 pm

"is there a peco electrofrog point in the same dimensions as a normal peco setrack insulfrog point? (ST-240 / 241)."

Sorry Endto End but the answer to that is no, all the Peco and equivalent Hornby Set Track is dead frog, don't know if here is any obscure brand though.

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Postby End2end » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:36 pm

Thanks for the reply luckymucklebackit.
OK it will need to be ST-240's and 241's then. It does make fitting a little easier and the points have been bought for a while but I'd better get some more insulated fishplates ordered.
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Postby End2end » Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:12 pm

I finally got around to checking the dimensions of the 3rd radius on the end baseboards.
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The track is definatly going to need cutting across the gap if I ever want to dismantle the boards.
As the cut will be on the curved Peco ST231, does anyone have any comments, suggestions or pointers about cutting curved track over a baseboard gap?

I'm not ready to lay the track but any information and advice collected before I go ahead would be appreciated.
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Postby End2end » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:26 pm

I'm still waiting on my free wood man for my delivery. The order exploded as I didn't account for bracing the legs.
Hopefully it should all be here soon along with the weather to build it outside, dismantle it and rebuild it inside.
I'll need the sun out, a saw, a drill, a screwdriver and a pair of these > 8) :lol:

In the meantime my main computer has gone down so I need to install a new hard drive which came last week and rebuild and reinstall everything.
It usually takes a month to get back up and running again fully as it's the studio pc with LOTS of programs and plug-ins to install. :roll:

Although tommorrow, I am going on the Spa Valley Railway via a voucher as a Christmas gift. :mrgreen:

I ended up in Hastings the other day. They have a small ride on train there along the seafront with a diesel, steam and what looks like an old American style steam engine and I watched as they used the small man powered turntable which is located at the end of the line where the tall black fishing net houses are, under the cliff railway.
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This should surely say CORNISH PISKIE not pixie !!!

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You can see the Rio Grande steam train in the background.

Atrocious weather so we didn't take a ride but it was nice to see it "in action" as it were.

On the non railway side of life my Cornish holiday is booked, I have just secured a residency in a London club once a month, my radio show is still going from strength to strength, I am booked to do a summer festival (on my Birthday funny enough) and I am nominated in the Mixcloud music awards.
PHEW! No wonder I haven't found the time to do any modelling. :lol:
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Re: St. Blazey's - My first layout - Stage 3 Building

Postby Dad-1 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:49 pm

If only we had the room, plus ££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££

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Postby End2end » Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:18 pm

I think the total cost of thiers is HEY..... STINGS! :lol:
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