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Re: St. Blazey's - My first layout - Stage 3 Building

Postby End2end » Thu May 16, 2019 3:24 pm

Thanks Timbersurf. :)
I've gone ahead and ordered a 6 pin and an 8 pin socket. I need to raise some more funds for the 4 pin socket, motor and mount but this is looking promising. :idea: :mrgreen:
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Postby End2end » Thu May 16, 2019 3:45 pm

A quick couple of questions on the circuit board before I start if I may.
What size sould the "on-board" wiring be?
Should the wire on the board be the same size as the wires coming off the board from the DCC controller and to the motor?
I have 7, 16 and 32.
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Re: St. Blazey's - My first layout - Stage 3 Building

Postby TimberSurf » Thu May 16, 2019 4:25 pm

End2end wrote:A quick couple of questions on the circuit board before I start if I may.
What size sould the "on-board" wiring be?
Should the wire on the board be the same size as the wires coming off the board from the DCC controller and to the motor?
I have 7, 16 and 32.
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7/02 is good for 1.5Amps, so will do for all the wiring
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Postby End2end » Thu May 16, 2019 4:29 pm

Thanks Timbersurf. :wink:
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Postby End2end » Mon May 20, 2019 3:18 pm

After sending a message to the seller, what I thought was a 4 pin DCC lead with socket to attach a decoder to my circuit actually isn't so can anyone point in the right direction please?
Ideally it would be leads to a 4 pin DCC SOCKET also with an adaptor to change the end from a socket to 4 pins.
Or vice versa, as long as the end can be change.
So reguardless wether a 4 pin DCC decoder has a socket or pins on the end the tester would be able test it.
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Re: St. Blazey's - My first layout - Stage 3 Building

Postby End2end » Tue May 21, 2019 12:37 am

The decoder tester is nearly built but I need the 4 pin lead to finish.
I've managed to find a 4 pin lead with pins on one end and a socket on the other end.
There are 2 versions both by TCS.
TCS 1410 4 Pin Mini Connector Coloured Wires £11.00
TCS 1475 4 Pin Micro Connector Coloured Wires £12.50
https://www.coastaldcc.co.uk/products/tcs/other/

I'm not sure which I need for 00, the Mini or Micro, but they are expensive for what they are. Does any one know of a cheaper lead?
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Re: St. Blazey's - My first layout - Stage 3 Building

Postby End2end » Wed May 22, 2019 2:41 pm

Just a couple of pictures of the decoder tester so far.
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I haven't tested it yet, rather waiting until it's finished with the 4 pin lead attached.
I didn't have any orange 16.0 wire for the "other way" wires coming off the board so they are grey and PINK. :? :lol:
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Postby End2end » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:36 pm

Not a lot of making going on at the moment but a few more purchases for different projects.
8 Pcs Sugarcraft Modelling Set Icing Cupcake Cake Decorating Tools Craft Pens @ £1.75 for the "over-plastering" I want to do on the exterior of my Linka Inn. (once it's made)
Maun Safety Rule 300mm @ £3.81
3 x Miniature SPST Momentary Push Button Switch Push To Make @ £2.12 for testing signals etc.
2 x 6 Pin NEM 651 DCC decoder sockets with trailing pre-wired harness @ £5.45 to go with the 2 decoders won but not arrived yet.
Scale-Cast OO Scale Stone Building Mould @ £6.87 with alternative windows for my Linka Inn.
Universal plastic Miniature DC Motor Mounting Bracket @ £1.79 to hold the motor on my decoder testing circuit.
5 x used motorised Dapol semiphore signals. 1 is broken but I may be able to fix it. (3 x home 2 x distant) @ AN ASTONISHING £12.90 :o My jaw nearly hit the floor when I won them at that price as they are over £30 EACH in the shops.

Still left to arrive...
2 x used 6 pin decoders @ £6.20 Ones definatly a Gaugemaster decoder and the other looks like a Bachmann.
Hornby X8966 0-4-0 Motor and Worm @ £5.00 for the decoder testing circuit.
'Cornish Riviera' Railway world special book by Chris Leigh @ £2.78 I'm hoping there will be some good pictures for weathering examples.
Great Western Branch Line Modelling Part 2 book - PROTOTYPE BUILDINGS, FITTINGS etc @ £4.90

I rigged up each of the Dapol motorised signals to one of the push to make switches and a 9v battery to test them not relising....they have LEDs too!
:mrgreen:
Once all has arrived I will move on and finish some of the projects.

I am still on the lookout for a cheap 4 hole socket (for a 4 pin decoder) to add to my decoder testing circuit. Does anyone know where to buy one that doesn't cost as much as the ones I posted previously please?
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Re: St. Blazey's - My first layout - Stage 3 Building

Postby End2end » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:32 pm

I just wanted to bump my last question to see if anyone has an avenue to pursue.
End2end wrote:I am still on the lookout for a cheap 4 hole socket (for a 4 pin decoder) to add to my decoder testing circuit. Does anyone know where to buy one that doesn't cost as much as the ones I posted previously please?

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Re: St. Blazey's - My first layout - Stage 3 Building

Postby End2end » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:45 pm

2 projects on the bench today.
First up testing 2 decoders that arrived today and then hard wiring and DCCing my ECC 0-4-0 - viewtopic.php?f=49&t=51555&p=669821#p669821

Secondly, I attempted to move on with my home made decoder tester albeit without the 4 pin socket attached.
I mounted it on a piece of wood and added a 6 pin decoder and attached it to the DCC bus but no joy.
I turned the 6 pin decoder around, still no joy. I then removed the 6pin and tried an 8 pin decoder, still no joy.
I removed the power and decoder and tried a 9v battery direct on the motor terminals (just in case). All working as it should.
There must be a solder bleed over one of the tracks on the veroboard which I'll investigate later, unless theres some glaring electronics mistake I have made. :?
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Re: St. Blazey's - My first layout - Stage 3 Building

Postby End2end » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:54 pm

My SPC Seep point motor alignment tool came today to help me fit my point motors correctly.
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SPC (Simplified Point Controls) make all sorts of these for different types and gauge track. (Including code 75)
Also, of late I have been a superb Human Being helping and teaching quite a few people :mrgreen: , so treated myself to this van that I found on The Junction Box website - https://www.thejunctionbox.net/ - No affiliation.
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The fleet grows. :)
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Re: St. Blazey's - My first layout - Stage 3 Building

Postby joshv8 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:40 pm

Very cool! I quite like some of the dapol range. Not easy to find much here in Aus though. Ill have a wander through the website.

I hadn't seen the locaters for the point motors before, what a good idea! Thanks for sharing.
Hoping you sort out your deoder tester.
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Postby End2end » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:07 pm

joshv8 wrote:I hadn't seen the locaters for the point motors before, what a good idea! Thanks for sharing.

Yes that's definatly going to make point motor fitting much easier. :D
One thing to note is that in the instructions it mentions that it is for unballasted track, but this may be because you need to drill the hold under the point bar. If it's drilled already I don't think it's a worry.
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Postby End2end » Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:27 pm

No posts from me for a while as I have become infested............with Linka. :lol:
Working on my Inn, I have the main buildings ground floor completed but it broke in 4 places when I was handling it as it's still very fragile. Albeit still strung together by whisps of dry pva.
I almost gave up at that point but manged to glue the whole thing back together although one of the framed windows broke. :roll:
Hopefully this will not be so blatent once the window frames are painted black with glazing behind it.

Another mistake I made was to glue on a tile at a right angle for the corner of the building (not looking at my plan) where there was supposed to be another tile then the right angle for the corner.
I fixed it by using a small brush with water, painting over the glued join with water which then slowly dissolved the pva.
I managed to get the tiles apart perfectly without breaking either. :)

If you make the same mistake as I did, once you have seperated the tiles make sure to leave them to fully dry again. :idea:

No pictures as yet but there is one thing I want to point out...
Not all Linka / Scalecast tiles are the same....width
I wanted a certain window style for my Inn and the window tile I have chosen is not a normal full tile width.
It's a Scalecast mould window 3/4's of the width of a normal tile, so my plan had to change slightly to accomodate the same width tiles on the rear of the building.
I do have another 3/4 width tile mould which is a door from an original Linka mould (the green ones) so I have used this tile for the matching width on the rear.
This (on my Inn), does not matter as you will not see the 3/4 door tile when looking at the building as it sits under the roof.
Bare this in mind when designing your buildings. :idea:
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Re: St. Blazey's - My first layout - Stage 3 Building

Postby joshv8 » Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:12 pm

Definitely looking foward to some pics!


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