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Re: Now N Begins...

Postby Zunnan » Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:57 pm

whynot wrote:Thanks!

The 'Nook was deliberately designed in, but as you say uncoupling in N seems problematic. My wagon stock is all old Farish/Peco, so presumably any alterations (beyond my dexterity any way) would require total removal of existing Rapidos (?).


You could use the Peco stock for auto uncoupling with little modification actually as Peco produce a purpose made extension to the couplers which actuates magnetically, they also produce electromagnets for them. NR-103 is the part number for the coupler lift arms and PL-25 is the magnet. I doubt you'll be wanting to shunt coaches, but even though it states that they're not suitable for stock which uses springs in the couplings I have seen them used successfully when the springs have been weakened a bit, so one end of a coach which couples to the engine could be tweaked to work.

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Re: Now N Begins...

Postby SR/ScR Fan » Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:19 pm

Excellent stuff mate! I love a good inglenook.

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Re: Now N Begins...

Postby PinkNosedPenguin » Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:18 pm

whynot wrote:but as you say uncoupling in N seems problematic.
Have a look at recent videos on my thread for demonstrations of Dapol 'easi-shunt' couplings in use. Uncoupling is easy and reliable. Coupling is better than rapidos too (no need to bash into the wagon at 90 mph to get it to couple!), though can be tricky if near a magnet (as you often end up unintentionally uncoupling somewhere else :evil: ). Smaller magnets or electromagnets would alleviate this.

whynot wrote:My wagon stock is all old Farish/Peco, so presumably any alterations (beyond my dexterity any way) would require total removal of existing Rapidos (?).
Yes this is true, but it is definitely do-able. I am slowly converting all my old (30 years old) stock using the Dapol conversion kit. You cut away the old couplings completely, then glue on NEM pockets, and finally push the easi-shunt couplers into the pockets. I'm no expert and I have done it successfully a dozen times now (and need to do it a good few more times too!). The easi-shunts are expensive, but this can be reduced by only fitting to each end of whole rakes, or twos/threes, rather than individual wagons.

The couplings are so much better than rapidos in almost every way - looks, coupling, uncoupling - and they are supposed to offer delayed uncoupling (but I couldn't get this to work so gave up on that!).

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Re: Now N Begins...

Postby whynot » Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:32 pm

Thanks all - I shall delve further into the tricky world of coupling (and un-ditto).

I fear however that you all over-estimate my manipulative skill with small things. I tried similar alterations with 00 stock and it did not go well. In fact abysmal failure comes to mind. I shall probably simply settle for what I have.
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Re: Now N Begins...

Postby whynot » Sun Jan 25, 2015 1:33 pm

And now an admittedly unfeasible hill begins..... delayed until more card arrives! And the shape of an equally unlikely platform!

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Progress....of sorts.
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Re: Now N Begins...

Postby whynot » Sun Jan 25, 2015 1:36 pm

And yes I know platform way too close against the track - I find it easier to first follow the track and then reduce by x all the way round!
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Re: Now N Begins...

Postby skyblue » Sun Jan 25, 2015 1:41 pm

I don't think the a hill in that position is too unlikely - plenty of stations are sited very close to a tunnel, take Morley as an example. And the idea of making the platform as you have done seems like a good one too. I look forward to further progress.

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Re: Now N Begins...

Postby JohnN » Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:26 pm

Placing a station and platform there looks a really good use of that 'dead' corner space.

Its all coming along nicely. :)

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Re: Now N Begins...

Postby whynot » Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:48 pm

Using 2nd and 3rd radius in 48 x 27 made it virtually impossible to incorporate a passing loop if station on the straight!
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Re: Now N Begins...

Postby JohnN » Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:40 pm

I had that issue on my similar sized board.

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Re: Now N Begins...

Postby whynot » Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:41 pm

Thanks for comments. It should look as OK as space restrictions allow!

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Re: Now N Begins...

Postby PinkNosedPenguin » Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:46 pm

I've got platforms on 1st radius curves on my layout :o so I think yours will look better than that.
My passengers have to be good at long jump when getting on and off (depending where in the coach they are) :lol:

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Re: Now N Begins...

Postby whynot » Sun Jan 25, 2015 7:58 pm

I've certainly concluded that it was worth adding 3" to the depth of the board to allow 3rd radius (with R2 for the inner loop) - the nominal 63' Mk I bogies don't look TOO bad visually on the curves.
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Re: Now N Begins...

Postby whynot » Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:41 pm

@skyblue - been wondering what the goods shed you asked about is - one of these it seems!

Kestrel "N" Gauge Plastic Kit No: GMKD43 Goods Shed.
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Re: Now N Begins...

Postby skyblue » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:30 am

whynot wrote:@skyblue - been wondering what the goods shed you asked about is - one of these it seems!

Kestrel "N" Gauge Plastic Kit No: GMKD43 Goods Shed.


Thanks whynot - it's a pity that they appear to be available only in N.


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