Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

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Re: Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

Postby Dad-1 » Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:36 am

Not been 'in here' as much as usual recently, but as always
I just love Millsend.

TimberSurf you mention fine wire for drainpipe joins, brackets
and anchors. This was my 'cheap and nasty' response to Andrew's
(Grotland) super quality work, The pipe can be either rod, or tube
as you really don't see the hollow ends !!
This was from fuse wire, a material that I always like having around.

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Re: Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

Postby railwayjim » Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:36 pm

Thanks Dad-1 and TimberSurf; haha fame at last TimberSurf! I have been and checked it out, glad I could help.

Just a quick update, nothing to show really, but one thing I will mention
is the use of Peco setrack curved points, a compromise for me as I needed
to take a sharpish curve to get into the goods yard area and split off into 4 sidings.
The curve doesn't look too bad and once ballasted should look quite acceptable, but,
when I pushed vans and drove locos through the curved points they all derailed. Disaster!
On close inspection, as wagons and locos entered the points they rode up on the point blade
edge which touches the outer curved stock rail. I found that filing the top edge of the blade
until it felt a smooth joint with the rail solved the problem and now all locos, steam and
diesel, wagons and cct's all run in and out without any problems at all. Something to watch, if
you ever have to fit these points, especially as both points were brand new.

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Re: Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

Postby Dad-1 » Sun Apr 01, 2018 3:27 pm

Jim,

I've had that problem, not with a set-track point, but a new short RH livefrog
turnout on the HSII shunting layout. Although it didn't give me any derailing it
caused a hesitation through the train as we try to couple/uncouple with Kadees.

Another little manufacturing glitch I found with a set-track point was that the
switch rail extended beyond the end of the countersinking cutout and caught
any passing flanges and randomly derailed stock. Again grinding down the tapered
switch rail end allowed it to seat in correctly. Not things you find until laid, often
ballasted by which time it's head scratching time !!

You could probably buy many points without having any problems, but always worth
trying to remember other peoples fixes.

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Re: Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

Postby Bufferstop » Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:20 pm

You're not alone in finding the overlong switch rail, I've encountered it from time to time on almost all versions of Peco points, but not often enough that I've ever thought to check for it before laying the points. So it's always been a slitting disk in the mini drill job. It can be a bit unnerving especially if it's on the rail nearest to you, (use back of disk), try to find some very thin metal sheet to put under the end of the blade to protect the sleepers.
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Re: Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

Postby Mountain » Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:37 pm

It is a case where in previous years I'd have issues, but only after building my own track and all the careful adjustments needed to get it to work, I start to get a hang of what issues can arrise. Some issues may not be so much of an issue with normal points, but will be amplified when it comes to curved points or points which are designed to fit in unusual angles.
One of the first points I made had a lovely little ornate looking bend to it. I made it like this just to be different. However, I soon found why they dont make points like this on prototype railways! I had to move the rails to a more eased location... It is all in the fun of learning how and why things work the way they do!

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Re: Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

Postby railwayjim » Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:17 pm

Thanks Geof T, Bufferstop and Mountain ..... always worth checking before ballasting begins, as you say.

Just had half an hour fiddling about with a length of 6mm square balsa. I have
been looking for parcels, boxes and crates for the inner platforms of the goods yard
and have come to realise just how much you need to spend on the various pre-made
examples. I am not a miser by the way :wink: but, to build a large selection to make the
platforms look busy would cost an arm and a leg, so, whilst in my local model shop I found
3ft lengths of balsa wood for 60p. I bought a length of the 6mm sq. and have had a bash at making
tea chests, very often seen in the 60's but no one produces them.

I cut short pieces 10mm long, painted the edges silver and with a marker made some markings
on them to look like the stencil markings the originals would have had. I also cut some in half
to create some small crates/boxes and to be honest they don't look too bad, and price wise,
what's on the board on and off the trailer cost about 8p in total.

I think my next batch will have a buff wash first, just to take off the brightness, but otherwise I'm
quite happy with how they've turned out, plus saving money to spend on something else on the railway :D

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Re: Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

Postby carnehan » Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:47 pm

Very clever Jim. It’s all about savings to put the pennies towards what’s really important, like a loco! :lol:

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Re: Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

Postby TimberSurf » Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:30 pm

Brilliant Jim! You keep setting off my juices :P Now thinking about how to make them without the micro writing problem! :lol:
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Re: Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

Postby railwayjim » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:45 pm

Thanks Paul, that's the plan :wink:

TimberSurf, I agree, I didn't like the pen graphics either :?

Had another bash at the tea chests today. I decided to do wrap around graphics.
Knocked a sheet up of two different kinds, using original tea chests pics, reduced
to fit my balsa, 6.25mm square x 10mm. There is 72 on the sheet, so plenty to go at.

They are definitely an improvement on the first set and with a little more care applying
should do the job. Applied using PVA brushed onto the back of each cut out and then gently
pressed into place.

72 on a sheet ..... This may take some time :roll:

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Took 4 pics, only one wasn't blurred :cry:

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Postby TimberSurf » Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:26 pm

I was thinking along the same lines (printed wrap) and have evidence that printing that small is possible. But I do like the idea of the silver corners, so you may have to paint them again! :roll: Maybe some sort of wet paint velvet (peters paining pad) to wipe the corner edges, rather than paint brush?
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Re: Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

Postby railwayjim » Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:37 pm

I think you're right TimberSurf, as luck has it I have a silver car and I bought a scratch pen
to touch in stone chips on the front, might dig that out in the morning and give it a go. The nib
on the pen is about 3mm and works by pressing down on the nib to get the paint flowing to the
point, so could be just right for what I want.

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Re: Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

Postby TimberSurf » Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:50 pm

Yep thats a clever idea! :D You can buy paint pens, I do my wagon marking with them, they come in Gold and Silver, may give them a go.
I was thinking this could be an item for my website pdf shop, if I develop the print!
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Re: Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

Postby railwayjim » Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:17 pm

That sounds like a good idea, can't think of anywhere else that has tea chest's.

I have the A4 artwork saved as a pdf if you want a copy TimberSurf.

My artwork is designed to fit 6.25mm sq. x 10, but with a % increase/decrease it
could fit a different size. I made it that size to equate to 3ft high x 2ft square in real money.

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Re: Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

Postby railwayjim » Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:35 pm

A few more tea chests off the production line, seen in a better setting,
in the goods yard where they belong. Decided to just make the light coloured
ones for trailer loads and use the darker coloured ones on the inside platforms
to busy them up a little with plenty of goods.

Done in small batches I should soon have enough for the yard trailers.

A couple of pictures, and sharp ones this time :wink:

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Re: Millsend Layout - OO Gauge Sixties Midland

Postby Ex-Pat » Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:17 pm

Have you got a Tetley's or Yorkshire Tea factory in mind by any chance? (And I don't mean a Tetley's brewery!)


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